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From: St 
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 12:17:21
Message: <47f26e21$1@news.povray.org>
"Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message 
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> Still annoyed that to shut it down you have to pick the arrow next to the 
> lock button which then displays a sad 98 style menu bar as if it was some 
> sort of afterthought (reading some articles it may well have been).

      My wife received a laptop from Father Christmas recently, and with 
Vista Home, I noticed that too.

        First thought was: "Weird!"

         ~Steve~



> Phil Cook
>
> --
> I once tried to be apathetic, but I just couldn't be bothered
> http://flipc.blogspot.com


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 12:18:42
Message: <47F26E90.1050200@hotmail.com>
Phil Cook wrote:
> And lo on Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:21:46 -0000, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> 
> did spake, saying:
> 
>> Doctor John wrote:
>>> Why is it that so many M$ users (present company excepted) defend their
>>> choice by pointing to the success of M$ as a company rather than being
>>> able to rationally discuss the pros and cons of Windows (all variants)
>>> as a stable and secure OS?
>>
>> Because non-technical people don't know about that stuff. They just 
>> know that it can't be *too* bad if that many people are using it.  
>> I.e., they look at the users, and trust the opinion of those who most 
>> got it right.
>>
>> It's not science, it's politics.
> 
> Another conversation
> 
> "Millions of people can't be wrong!"
> "Why not?"
> "Um well because er if something was wrong then people would stop using it"
or
"And the first person who tried it got told 'Millions of people can't be 
wrong'"


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 13:23:29
Message: <18v4v31556shbvmt7cgjtbqepeldui5hia@4ax.com>
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 18:17:12 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

>
>"Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message 
>news:op.t8xqkvy4c3xi7v@news.povray.org...
>
>> Still annoyed that to shut it down you have to pick the arrow next to the 
>> lock button which then displays a sad 98 style menu bar as if it was some 
>> sort of afterthought (reading some articles it may well have been).

Oh! A rant against Vista. Can I join in? :)
I've also been using the trial version of office 2007 and I can't find
anything when I want it. My F1 key is showing signs of wear. Great new
job and new software, don't ya love it? :)

>      My wife received a laptop from Father Christmas recently, and with 
>Vista Home, I noticed that too.
>
>        First thought was: "Weird!"
>
What lock button? Oh! Ctrl Alt Del doesn't bring up the taskmanager.
Isn't that a step backward?
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 13:51:55
Message: <47f2844b@news.povray.org>

> Still annoyed that to shut it down you have to pick the arrow next to 
> the lock button which then displays a sad 98 style menu bar as if it was 
> some sort of afterthought (reading some articles it may well have been).

An afterthought that took a year to "plan".

http://moishelettvin.blogspot.com/2006/11/windows-shutdown-crapfest.html


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 14:37:29
Message: <47f28ef9@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
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> I've also been using the trial version of office 2007 and I can't find
> anything when I want it. My F1 key is showing signs of wear. Great new
> job and new software, don't ya love it? :)

If I may suggest...
Take an hour or so and explore the ribbon bars. Once you get used to it it's
actually not too bad.

Biggest problem I have these days is switching between 2007 on the laptop,
2003 on my office machine and 2000 on my home desktop


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 14:43:08
Message: <47f2904c@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:
> "And the first person who tries that gets told 'Millions of people can't 
> be wrong'"

Love it!

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 14:48:53
Message: <47f291a5$1@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:
> the security windows amusing as it doesn't answer the questions as to 
> why do people want to turn then off nor why were they implemented.

If you're getting "are you sure" instead of "enter your password", 
you're running as administrator. That's the basic bad behavior people 
have to be trained away from.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 14:51:18
Message: <47f29236$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Phil Cook wrote:
>> "And the first person who tries that gets told 'Millions of people 
>> can't be wrong'"
> 
> Love it!

PEOPLE ARE SHEEP! >_<

[Hey, I guess that kinda lets Wales off the hook, eh?]


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 14:53:35
Message: <47f292bf$1@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:

> http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/news.php?i=1355
> 
> Which I partialy agree with; though I find his comment about turning off 
> the security windows amusing as it doesn't answer the questions as to 
> why do people want to turn then off nor why were they implemented.

Oh, right, sure. Vista still has bugs because any large new product will 
have bugs, and M$, the richest software company on Earth, has done 
everything they could have to ease the situation. It's not like they 
could have designed the OS properly, with a simpler internal structure 
and 50x less bloat and thus fixed all the problems before the thing even 
left the drawing board. No, Sir...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Yet another Doctor John rant
Date: 1 Apr 2008 15:06:09
Message: <qn45v3ddnh2tmpiso2um2lmjqv210084un@4ax.com>
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:38:13 +0200, "Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech
sa dot com> wrote:

>
>"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
>news:18v4v31556shbvmt7cgjtbqepeldui5hia@4ax.com...
>
>> I've also been using the trial version of office 2007 and I can't find
>> anything when I want it. My F1 key is showing signs of wear. Great new
>> job and new software, don't ya love it? :)
>
>If I may suggest...
>Take an hour or so and explore the ribbon bars. Once you get used to it it's
>actually not too bad.
>

Of course you may and I know I should but I just want my fingers to do
the thinking. I should configure the quick access Toolbar and I am
sure I will if I keep it. 
I'm not hip must be getting old 
Cause change is Evil so I'm told. :)

>Biggest problem I have these days is switching between 2007 on the laptop,
>2003 on my office machine and 2000 on my home desktop
>
But you are young with a flexible mind. (A cool kata <groan>)
Last job I was switching between different keyboards.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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