On 23/02/2023 04:12, Bald Eagle wrote:
> I'll probably have a go at figuring something out on paper and making it from
> scratch.
Interesting, I will be the first reader :)

> That said, Roger Dean employed a lot of Egyptian imagery for Asia, and I have
> all of my stuff I did with regard to the Giza plateau, the Great Pyramid (all
> 1.3 million blocks), the Schist Disk, and whatever else I have lying around.
And I even know what you are taking about (see attachment) :)

> Also see my recent post re: vase stl
After Thomas will finish vase scene, I (or may be someone else) can 
animate it and this animation I can put on my POV-Ray Youtube channel.

> As people know, I kind of work in fits and starts - long periods of inactivity
> might be followed with a sudden burst of inspiration, followed by a need to just
> take a break.   YMMV.
This is about me - I didn't work with code for 3-4 month, but starting
from January can't stop. To give a rest to my mind I am switching to
something material, woodworking or ceramics:
https://www.facebook.com/yesbird65

All the best,
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YB

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On 2023-02-23 06:16 (-4), yesbird wrote:
> “Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and
> you feed him for a lifetime.” - Bible.

I don't think this came from the Bible.  Do you have a citation?

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Cousin Ricky <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> I don't think this came from the Bible.  Do you have a citation?

I read it in Evangelia, don't remember chapter exactly.
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YB

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yesbird <sya### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > Nice job on the breathing coral. Are you using an animation utility or scripting
> > something yourself? I'm using some 'old' cobbled script for replacing flagged
> > values between frames. I need to see if there's something more current.
>
> Hi, Mike.
> Thanks, this is only a start, more serious work will follow. As to
> animation, I am using very straight-forward techniques, described in
> manual: https://wiki.povray.org/content/HowTo:Create_animations
> and setting 'clock' variable for transformations.
>
> I like how It works, at least now for trivial cases, may be in the
> future I will need something more sophisticated.
>
> > I put a scene file together for you showing the use of negative blobs 'carving
> > out' smooth forms in positive strength blobs. Attached is a rendering from that
> > file. One drawback - there's a way to separately texture the voided space.  I'll
> > post the scene file in the binary scene file location.
> > Have a great night.
>
> Many, many thanks for this example, last time you give me a fish, now
> you are teaching me fishing ;). It looks like we thinking the same
> : blobs are very powerful and flexible, but control is not easy and
> intuitive, I spent about an hour setting parameters, trying to achieve
> desired form, that I had in mind. And I started thinking about external
> control, (like you do with point clouds) with CSG methods.
>
> This is exactly what I need for manufacturing artifacts, will play with
> them this night.
>
> Happy rendering,
> --
> YB


Great, glad I can help. I'll try to contribute to your Roger Dean project when I
can. Always loved his work...Cool concept to model and animate.

Patrick Woodroffe was my illustration hero when I was in high school. I keep his
Mythopoeikon book beside me for inspiration. His early pencil and etching work
is very nice.

Here a link to some of my early sketches and 3D. I've only had the site up for a
few months so it's very much a work in progress ...like the rest of my life. :)
I started adding some of my resent POV work. I'm currently modeling bugs for
some rendering ideas.

https://639cef3628e1f.site123.me/
I lost old website...now I'm using a free one. :)

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On 2023-02-23 08:56 (-4), yesbird wrote:
> Cousin Ricky <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
>> I don't think this came from the Bible.  Do you have a citation?
> 
> I read it in Evangelia, don't remember chapter exactly.

This is what I found in a Web search.  Not even a mention of the Bible.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/08/28/fish/

I ask for two reasons.  First, is that I find quotes mis-attributed so
frequently that I can never take them for granted.  Just reading that
article on just that one quote, you can see how people make up all kinds
of shit, often without realizing it.  Other search results mention
Matthew 4:19, only to say that people remember it wrong.

  "The human brain did not evolve to accurately represent the world
  around us; it evolved only to enhance the survival of our genes."
  --Victor S. Johnston

And it certainly did not evolve to remember quote attributions properly.

(But yes, I did verify the Victor Johnston quote!)

You can look up "Mandela effect" for more on this.

The second reason is that the source you are attributing is the
foundation of the world view of 1/3 of the world's population, yet few
of them seem to know what's in it beyond what their preachers tell them.
 Add to this our propensity to mis-attribute, and we have a real
problem, if a plurality of the world's population is to base their lives
on what's in that document, especially when their preachers have an
agenda.  While I don't tell people what they believe--I find that
unspeakably rude--I can and do challenge them on what is actually
written in their book.

I did decide to search the Bible for myself, and found 80 verses that
mention fish.  (Your translation may vary.)  None of them resembled this
quote.

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Cousin Ricky <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:

> I did decide to search the Bible for myself, ...
(Your translation may vary.)


Steven Anderson of the Faithful Word Baptist Church has a very interesting video
about why he's a KJV-only church, and why the other versions are less ...
reliable.

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On 2023-02-23 19:44 (-4), Bald Eagle wrote:
> Cousin Ricky <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> 
>> I did decide to search the Bible for myself, ...
>> (Your translation may vary.)
> 
> 
> Steven Anderson of the Faithful Word Baptist Church has a very interesting video
> about why he's a KJV-only church, and why the other versions are less ...
> reliable.

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

Even if I couldn't figure out on my own that biblical scholarship has
advanced greatly since 1611, I'm not inclined to listen to that hateful
bigot.  How hateful is he?  He's been banned from many countries,
including homophobic countries like Jamaica.  If he utters something
true by sheer accident, I'll surely hear it from someone else more
trustworthy.

On a tangential note, it appears the the Web portal disregards the
Followup-To header.

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On 23/02/2023 23:36, Mike Miller wrote:

> Great, glad I can help. I'll try to contribute to your Roger Dean project when I
> can. Always loved his work...Cool concept to model and animate.
> 
> Patrick Woodroffe was my illustration hero when I was in high school. I keep his
> Mythopoeikon book beside me for inspiration. His early pencil and etching work
> is very nice.
> 
> Here a link to some of my early sketches and 3D. I've only had the site up for a
> few months so it's very much a work in progress ...like the rest of my life. :)
> I started adding some of my resent POV work. I'm currently modeling bugs for
> some rendering ideas.
> 
> https://639cef3628e1f.site123.me/
> I lost old website...now I'm using a free one. :)
> 
Hi Mike !

I'm very glad that found here a man, who share my preferences in art and
technologies. Opposite to you, I'm much more programmer and
mathematician, but always dreamed to be an artist. 3D graphics somewhere
in between, and this is the reason why it attracts me so much.
So, if you will need some assistance in software development or similar,
I can help you without a problems. I am also working with ceramics
a little, this gives me a rest after intensive coding:
https://www.facebook.com/yesbird65

I want to thank you for pointing me to Patrick Woodroffe, I spent half
of the night exploring his artworks, only wonder, how I can miss him ?
He is a great artist. For symmetry, I would like to mention Kirill 
Chyolushkin:
https://illustrators.ru/posts/kirill-chyolushkin
Sorry, site in Russian, but contains mostly images.
I have only one of his books, as they are very expensive :)

You site is good and well-organized, some part of chaos is normal for
creativity, too much order will kill it :). You are very talented, I
like your old-time sketches and present works. I see you are using
Sculptris, I have a Z-Brush and now writing plugin for exporting meshes
to POV, preserving color info.

I like insects also, they have accurate 'construction' and beautiful
forms, created for rendering, please keep me in loop while working on them.

As to Yes-library: I found Fish-13 in some old archive, cleaned it up, 
recolorized and animated:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qSR539hQdo

Hope, you will not be disappointed. Now I am pushing it into macro for
more easy recolorizing and cloning (so please don't waste your time for
that), suppose it will be brilliant in my collection :).
I will post link to final code, after pushing it to repository.

Can't wait for putting hands on your blobs examples - will work with
them tomorrow.

All the best, and sorry for my English,
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YB

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Cousin Ricky <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:

> BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

^ (knew that was coming  ;) )

> Even if I couldn't figure out on my own that biblical scholarship has
> advanced greatly since 1611, I'm not inclined to listen to that hateful
> bigot.  How hateful is he?  He's been banned from many countries,
> including homophobic countries like Jamaica.

I watch all of them - I don't much care what anyone else says.
Steven Anderson
Roger Jimenez
Vernon Coleman
Walter Vieth
Brother Nathaniel
David Wood
.... dozens of others

I skim through so much content and not much really gets filtered except if I
find the presentation annoying or if I'm short on time or bored.  I might speed
up a video to max speed or skip ahead every few minutes to get through most of
the filler.

If I don't agree with something someone says, or the beliefs they hold -
whatever.
I don't really get in a twist over very much of anything.

We had Fred Phelps' people from Westboro Baptist Church at U of MD outside the
student union for a few days - way back when...  The whole 9 yards with the big
posters and everything.  I was just like, "yep."   Then I went to lunch and got
on with my day.  I had a lot of time-consuming chemistry sh*t to do, and I was
burning daylight.

But y'know - that's just me.

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Le 2023-02-23 à 18:44, Bald Eagle a écrit :
> Cousin Ricky <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> 
>> I did decide to search the Bible for myself, ...
> (Your translation may vary.)
> 
> 
> Steven Anderson of the Faithful Word Baptist Church has a very interesting video
> about why he's a KJV-only church, and why the other versions are less ...
> reliable.
> 
> 
> 
> 
That's ironic as the KJV is based on an earlier version that is regarded 
as unreliable... How can the derived work be more reliable than it's 
main source ?

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