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Hello,
I'm planning on uploading some new things soon, and I have a couple
of questions/suggestions about the object collection.
1. Do declarations in scene files not intended to be imported need to
follow the prefix naming conventions? A big example would be demo or
example scenes included with a package.
2. Is there any method of counting numbers of downloads of certain
objects? If not it would be nice for developers to see what kind of
activity their packages are getting.
3. Is there a specific reason that SVG files are not permitted for
upload? I use Inkscape a lot when developing prisms and lathes, and it
would be nice to include the original SVG with the rest of the files.
Thanks in advance!
--
-The Mildly Infamous Blue Herring
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"Blue Herring" <pov### [at] bherringcotsenet> wrote in message
news:48483f8b$1@news.povray.org...
> Hello,
> I'm planning on uploading some new things soon, and I have a couple of
> questions/suggestions about the object collection.
>
> 1. Do declarations in scene files not intended to be imported need to
> follow the prefix naming conventions? A big example would be demo or
> example scenes included with a package.
Strictly speaking, no. The naming conventions are there to help minimise
naming collisions which would mainly be a problem with included files.
>
> 2. Is there any method of counting numbers of downloads of certain
> objects? If not it would be nice for developers to see what kind of
> activity their packages are getting.
We've been recording downloads since mid-March, but currently this info
isn't displayed anywhere. I'll look at putting together a query to summarize
the data.
>
> 3. Is there a specific reason that SVG files are not permitted for upload?
> I use Inkscape a lot when developing prisms and lathes, and it would be
> nice to include the original SVG with the rest of the files.
The automatic upload scripts restrict file types to those directly supported
by POV-Ray or Moray (plus HTML related files for documentation).
Administrators can upload other file types.
In the sort of case you outline, where the POV-Ray files work fine without
InkScape, but where the SVG files add value to someone wishing to tailor the
shapes, I think it's a good idea to make them available.
I would suggest that you upload the POV-Ray files and create the entry for
the object, then send the SVG files in a zipped archive to the
administrators email address (see http://lib.povray.org/members/). We can
then add the zip file to the object files so it gets downloaded with them.
I'd recommend calling the zip file 'yourobjectname_svgsource.zip'.
Regards,
Chris B.
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Chris B wrote:
> Strictly speaking, no. The naming conventions are there to help minimise
> naming collisions which would mainly be a problem with included files.
Makes sense, thats what I thought but I didn't want to assume.
> We've been recording downloads since mid-March, but currently this info
> isn't displayed anywhere. I'll look at putting together a query to summarize
> the data.
That would be great, thanks.
> The automatic upload scripts restrict file types to those directly supported
> by POV-Ray or Moray (plus HTML related files for documentation).
> Administrators can upload other file types.
>
> In the sort of case you outline, where the POV-Ray files work fine without
> InkScape, but where the SVG files add value to someone wishing to tailor the
> shapes, I think it's a good idea to make them available.
>
> I would suggest that you upload the POV-Ray files and create the entry for
> the object, then send the SVG files in a zipped archive to the
> administrators email address (see http://lib.povray.org/members/). We can
> then add the zip file to the object files so it gets downloaded with them.
> I'd recommend calling the zip file 'yourobjectname_svgsource.zip'.
Great, thanks for the help, I'll do this.
--
-The Mildly Infamous Blue Herring
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>>> 2. Is there any method of counting numbers of downloads of certain
>>> objects? If not it would be nice for developers to see what kind of
>>> activity their packages are getting.
>>
>> I'll look at putting together a query to summarize the data.
>
> That would be great, thanks.
A summary showing the number of downloads per object is now available at
http://lib.povray.org/searchcollection/downloadsummary.php?rollup=1.
By default it sorts by the object name, but you can sort by 'Contributor' or
by 'Total', for example:
http://lib.povray.org/searchcollection/downloadsummary.php?rollup=1&sort=total
So Sam is currently top of the leader board with HFArch, closely followed by
Ben with Grass and Warp with MeshLathe. No cheating please :-).
To see it split out by version number you can use
http://lib.povray.org/searchcollection/downloadsummary.php?rollup=0
Regards,
Chris B.
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Chris B wrote:
> So Sam is currently top of the leader board with HFArch, closely followed by
> Ben with Grass and Warp with MeshLathe. No cheating please :-).
The ironic thing is I'm not really happy with that version of the grass
macro - I just haven't gotten around to doing a new one :)
...Chambers
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Chris B <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
> No cheating please :-).
I wonder if it would mess up the statistics too much if they where filtered
so that if the same library has been downloaded from the same IP address
more than once, it would be counted as only one download.
(I understand that in some cases more than one computer might be seen
as a single IP due to NAT and other such arrangements, and also a single
user may have his IP changed regularly because of dynamic IP addressing,
but I'd dare to say those cases are usually the exception.)
--
- Warp
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"Chambers" <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote in message
news:484cc240$1@news.povray.org...
> Chris B wrote:
>> So Sam is currently top of the leader board with HFArch, closely followed
>> by Ben with Grass and Warp with MeshLathe. No cheating please :-).
>
> The ironic thing is I'm not really happy with that version of the grass
> macro - I just haven't gotten around to doing a new one :)
>
> ...Chambers
Well I thought my Earth object would be more popular.
I don't know!
It's almost like spinning globes have gone out of fashion. :-)
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
news:484cf1b4@news.povray.org...
> Chris B <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
>> No cheating please :-).
>
> I wonder if it would mess up the statistics too much if they where
> filtered
> so that if the same library has been downloaded from the same IP address
> more than once, it would be counted as only one download.
Hmm. That would mean digging back through the logs, so, unless the
competitiveness starts overwhelming people I'd prefer to just trust to
folk's sense of fair play. Also I'd venture to guess that the majority of
large organisations and domestic connections nowadays use dynamic allocation
or address translation of some sort (though I can't prove it).
In the interests of full disclosure :-) I should declare that when I need to
check any changes to the download code I usually download my Netball object,
so that's probably a couple of places higher in the league table than it
aught to be.
Regards,
Chris B.
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Chris B wrote:
> A summary showing the number of downloads per object is now available at
> http://lib.povray.org/searchcollection/downloadsummary.php?rollup=1.
>
> By default it sorts by the object name, but you can sort by 'Contributor' or
> by 'Total', for example:
> http://lib.povray.org/searchcollection/downloadsummary.php?rollup=1&sort=total
>
> So Sam is currently top of the leader board with HFArch, closely followed by
> Ben with Grass and Warp with MeshLathe. No cheating please :-).
>
> To see it split out by version number you can use
> http://lib.povray.org/searchcollection/downloadsummary.php?rollup=0
Nifty! Thanks!
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-The Mildly Infamous Blue Herring
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