Janne Eriksson wrote:
> 
> A friend of mine claims that Bryce is the one and only 3D program to
> use...  I have never used Bryce myself, only POV Ray, and would like
> to ask some more experienced users here for some more info on Bryce,
> e.g. comapred to POV Ray...? Is POV the winner :-) ?

Well, the people who write POV-Ray didn't go broke...

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John
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Any program in the hands of someone with talent and patience will produce
great images. But for me Pov is the one because of it's flexibility.

Mick

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In article <3AE1BA9E.A3DD7462@erols.com> , John VanSickle 
<van### [at] erolscom>  wrote:

> Well, the people who write POV-Ray didn't go broke...

I am a student - I am always broke ;-)


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Depends where you get it <g>

Warp wrote:
> 
> Janne Eriksson <jan### [at] idese> wrote:
> : A friend of mine claims that Bryce is the one and only 3D program to use...
> 
>   Is it free?
> 
> --
> #local D=array[6]{11117333955,7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330}
> #local I=0;#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I],13),8)-3,10>#end
> #while(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().1
> pigment{rgb 9}}#local I=(D[I]>99?I:I+1);#end                /*- Warp -*/

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"oliWood" <O.E### [at] durhamacuk> wrote in message
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> Depends where you get it <g>

Legally?

Nekar

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oliWood <O.E### [at] durhamacuk> wrote:
: Depends where you get it <g>

  For some reason (although I don't wonder why...) price is never an issue
when people discuss about which renderer is better.
  An attitude like "why do you use POV-Ray when this or that hypersuper
high-end renderer is much better" shows clearly that the person has a
pirate version of that program.
  As the obvious answer is "because that high-end program costs more than
my 4-month paycheck and I just can't afford it" and usually the other person
is also someone who couldn't afford it, it's quite clear what is the
situation.
  Piracy seems to be so common that this doesn't even come to their minds
when they ask the question. They just assume that also you use pirated
programs as naturally as they do.
  In my opinion those kind of people are a big bunch of losers (sorry if
I offended anyone, but that's just my opinion).

  When someone asks me this question in real life, I always answer in the
same way: "Well, give me the money and I'll buy the program and start using
it." That's usually enough to shut them up.

  And besides, POV-Ray *IS* better than many of those expensive programs.

-- 
#local D=array[6]{11117333955,7382340,3358,3900569407,970,4254934330}
#local I=0;#macro M()<mod(D[I],13)-6,mod(div(D[I],13),8)-3,10>#end
#while(I<6)cylinder{M()#local D[I]=div(D[I],104);M().1
pigment{rgb M()}}#local I=(D[I]>99?I:I+1);#end              /*- Warp -*/

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Warp wrote:

> An attitude like "why do you use POV-Ray when this or that hypersuper
> high-end renderer is much better" shows clearly that the person has a
> pirate version of that program.

I wouldn't say "clearly", though the piracy problem exists. Lots of people
involved in 3d have access to legit copies of software they could never afford
themselves, because they attend a CG class or work for a CG company. So the
"who's got the biggest one" attitude is annoying but more related to
testosterone than to piracy per se IMHO. Pov people tend to have an "attitude"
too...

About less high-end software like Bryce or Vue, it's also debatable. Someone who
can afford the hardware to run Pov smoothly can also afford these programs, and
older versions of them are often available for (almost) free in magazines, or
bundled with other programmes (like Bryce3D with Poser 4).

G.

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Gilles Tran wrote:

> Pov people tend to have an "attitude" too...

Say what !?!

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On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:41:01 +0200, "Janne Eriksson"
<jan### [at] idese> wrote:
>A friend of mine claims that Bryce is the one and only 3D program to use...
>I have never used Bryce myself, only POV Ray, and would like to ask some
>more experienced users here for some more info on Bryce, e.g. comapred to
>POV Ray...? Is POV the winner :-) ?

For things involving height fields or objects that can be represented
similarly, Bryce is quite useful; it's far easier to tweak and test
them then it is in POV, IMO. But I find it very difficult to work with
for anything else; it makes far more sense to me to lay stuff out with
coordinates than by moving stuff around on the screen (and for the
same reason I don't use programs like Moray). I also don't like the
texturing model as much as I do POVRay's.

I feel like I've got greater control in general in POVRay, overall. I
have seen some spectacular images done in Bryce, though. I suspect
that to some extent the answer is that it depends both on the artist
and the type of images one wishes to create. But I'm odd; I don't
believe in One True Program under any circumstances. :)

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Janne,
I have Bryce4, and after paying the amount of money that I did, I think 
that it should do more.
It's easier to use than POV because of the semi-realtime rendering, but 
it lacks some things that can be found in free software such as POV. 
I've been into 3D modelling about two years now and the best 3D 
modelling software I've found, that's reasonably priced, is 3C Canvas 
Pro at www.amabilis.com. 

If you are comfortable with writing all the code then POVRay is by far 
the best way to go, simply the most powerful raytracer out there, and 
it's FREE.
Les

Janne Eriksson wrote:

> Hi!
> 
> A friend of mine claims that Bryce is the one and only 3D program to use...
> I have never used Bryce myself, only POV Ray, and would like to ask some
> more experienced users here for some more info on Bryce, e.g. comapred to
> POV Ray...? Is POV the winner :-) ?
> 
> /Janne
> 
> 
>

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