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Leroy Whetstone wrote:
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> Is this submission <HTML>?
Yes.
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Ken Tyler - 1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
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This line was pulled from the header of your message:
Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
This is the easiest way to tell.
Leroy Whetstone wrote:
>
> Is this submission <HTML>?
--
Mr. Art
"Often the appearance of reality is more important
than the reality of the appearance."
Bill DeWitt 2000
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How about this one!
I've had trouble lately when I'd load entres from a povray group. I get
a little box that ask if how many file I want to load and if I want to
mark the others as read.
When I load a few or all of them the next time I load the group it winds
up saying that there are fewer files to read. So somewhere trying to fix
it I must have change my output to <HTML>.
Leroy Whetstone wrote:
>
> Is this submission <HTML>?
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Leroy Whetstone <lrw### [at] janics com> wrote:
: How about this one!
Now it's ok. Thank you for your cooperation.
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main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
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Gilles Tran <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote:
: To be frank, this limitation would be logical it if this were, say, a newsgroup
: about rural farming in tropical countries where the users are likely to have
: limited computer resources. But this NG is dedicated to computer graphics, and
: used by people who have up-to-date configurations, if only to run CG software and
: Internet connections able to download binaries.
There's no need to use HTML in order to talk about computer graphics. You
can't post binaries to this group anyways, so what's the point in sengind the
text in HTML format? You get no benefit from it.
The binaries groups are different. You are allowed to send binary attachments
there and thus HTML can be useful there. I don't mind at all if someone send
HTML to the binaries groups (I don't use this newsreader to read them).
: I've also noticed that the people
: who seem to have trouble with HTML postings are also rather advanced computer
: users, which doesn't make sense...
The reason is that those advanced users are using sophisticated news readers
and not HTML browsers to read the news. It makes more trouble to use the
HTML browser than the powerful news reader software.
I read the binary groups with Netscape's newsreader, and it's always a pain.
Netscape is huge and very slow in this machine, the download times are
irritatingly long (it MUST download all the images twice for some reason that
I don't know), etc.
With the proper news reader software I can browse the non-binaries groups
efficiently and without problems.
If you understand why an advanced user would use a command line shell a lot
more than graphical programs, you can understand why news reading is more
efficient with the proper software.
It you don't, then I can't do anyting about it.
: What annoys me is not actually the ban on HTML posting itself (which I don't find
: very useful, though it could come handy sometimes), but the fact that new users
: here get flamed for this the first time they post, when sometimes they don't even
: know they're doing HTML posts because it's the default mode in popular
: newsreaders or email programs.
I don't flame people, I just politely ask them the post articles in the
proper format. If I remember right, I have always used the word "please".
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main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
: You know Gilles I agree with you almost completely. A very vocal minority
: have have asserted that html posts are an -inconvenience- for them and that
: in order to read posts that are in html format they have to use a separate
: program that will read them. This implies they have the resources at their
: disposal to handle html posts but stick with software that does not support
: it out of preference.
The fact that a program _supports_ HTML doesn't mean that it's a _better_
or more _efficient_ program. Do you understand the difference?
: In this case the minority are controlling the majority.
I don't think so. Do you have any trouble reading the text-based articles?
Your statement would be true if the majority had trouble reading them.
We can't offend the left-handed people only because there are only 10% of
them. Are they controlling us? I don't think so.
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main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
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Sander <san### [at] stolscom> wrote:
: Was that done in Linux?
Solaris (run in a SparcStation).
I don't have access to the internet with any other system (well, I _COULD_
have, but I will never use Windows to surf in the internet; I don't trust it).
Solaris is just fine for me.
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main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/
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>
> The reason is that those advanced users are using sophisticated news readers
>and not HTML browsers to read the news. It makes more trouble to use the
>HTML browser than the powerful news reader software.
> I read the binary groups with Netscape's newsreader, and it's always a pain.
>Netscape is huge and very slow in this machine, the download times are
>irritatingly long (it MUST download all the images twice for some reason that
>I don't know), etc.
Netscape seems to d/l the images twice here too, extremely annoying, I thought
it was something to do with the way I upgraded it.
I now read the binaries groups with a text based browser, I can have the
attachments open in a seperate window at the press of a button (or two).
Off topic, - have you discovered ee *.jpg yet, it opens all the jpgs of the
current dir as thumbnails, and the first image in a window the size of the
image, you can navigate (the directory) on the image toolbar or by clicking
on the thumbnails, very useful for camparing images like those door knobs
the other day.
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Cheers
Steve email mailto:sjl### [at] ndirectcouk
%HAV-A-NICEDAY Error not enough coffee 0 pps.
web http://www.ndirect.co.uk/~sjlen/
or http://start.at/zero-pps
3:45pm up 23 min, 3 users, load average: 2.22, 2.14, 1.58
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Steve wrote:
> >irritatingly long (it MUST download all the images twice for some reason that
> >I don't know), etc.
>
> Netscape seems to d/l the images twice here too, extremely annoying, I thought
> it was something to do with the way I upgraded it.
I have used Netscape exclusively since I started reading these groups
2-3 years ago. I have never had to download a message twice to see it.
I have heard others mention this before but I suspect it is operator
error rather than a problem with Netscape.
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Ken Tyler - 1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/
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Ken wrote:
> Steve wrote:
>
> > >irritatingly long (it MUST download all the images twice for some reason that
> > >I don't know), etc.
> >
> > Netscape seems to d/l the images twice here too, extremely annoying, I thought
> > it was something to do with the way I upgraded it.
>
> I have used Netscape exclusively since I started reading these groups
> 2-3 years ago. I have never had to download a message twice to see it.
> I have heard others mention this before but I suspect it is operator
> error rather than a problem with Netscape.
probably not.
It happens to me here, all the time. On Linux and Win98 both. 4.6 and 4.7. But
since I switched to DSL it's been less painful (i.e. it double-downloads, but is
not too slow to tollerate).
--
"My new computer's got the clocks, it rocks
But it was obsolete before I opened the box" - W.A.Y.
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