a new alias...

http://www.wikipov.org

or

http://wikipov.org

Although this new alias (CNAME record) has started to propogate, it probably
won't be globally available for 20 hours or so...

(and BTW which SOB registered www.wikipov.com? )

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Tom,
Thanks for doing this.  This is great.  For my interest, are you financially
out of pocket setting this up?

Neil

"Tom Melly" <pov### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
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> a new alias...
>
> http://www.wikipov.org
>
> or
>
> http://wikipov.org
>
> Although this new alias (CNAME record) has started to propogate, it
probably
> won't be globally available for 20 hours or so...
>
> (and BTW which SOB registered www.wikipov.com? )
>
>

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"Neil Kolban" <kol### [at] kolbancom> wrote in message
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> Tom,
> Thanks for doing this.  This is great.  For my interest, are you
financially
> out of pocket setting this up?
>

Was there an alternative? (please don't say yes - and don't tell the wife in
any event ;).

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I just wanted to say that I love what's happening here.  I'll try to add a 
bunch of my objects when I get a chance.  I should be finishing up my 
POVComp entry (again) pretty soon, so I'll try to hop-on board at that time.

Something I've wondered about is "improvements".  In other words, if, say, I 
add a page with a bunch of objects, and then later, someone adds-to/modifies 
them, what are the procedures for them to add their changes?  I've always 
liked the ability to add-to or modify someone else's work in order to enhace 
it.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

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Jeremy,
By adding/improving ... I assume you mean the objects and not the page?

My suggestion would be to have the new objects added separately from those
that were originally posted.  For POV objects, those came from the mind of
the creator.  Improvements are subjective.  Ideally, the original creator
could look and see if new objects have been posted and then elect to replace
the originals with the new and remove the originals.  Additions are good,
replacements that are subjective and are not factual additions,
clarifications or well believed changes in fact/situation should, in my
opinion, not be arbitrarily changed unless by the original author.

Neil

"Jeremy M. Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecom> wrote in message
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> I just wanted to say that I love what's happening here.  I'll try to add a
> bunch of my objects when I get a chance.  I should be finishing up my
> POVComp entry (again) pretty soon, so I'll try to hop-on board at that
time.
>
> Something I've wondered about is "improvements".  In other words, if, say,
I
> add a page with a bunch of objects, and then later, someone
adds-to/modifies
> them, what are the procedures for them to add their changes?  I've always
> liked the ability to add-to or modify someone else's work in order to
enhace
> it.
>
> -- 
> Jeremy
> www.beantoad.com
>
>
>

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"Neil Kolban" <kol### [at] kolbancom> wrote in message 
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> Jeremy,
> By adding/improving ... I assume you mean the objects and not the page?

Correct

> My suggestion would be to have the new objects added separately from those
> that were originally posted.  For POV objects, those came from the mind of
> the creator.  Improvements are subjective.  Ideally, the original creator
> could look and see if new objects have been posted and then elect to 
> replace
> the originals with the new and remove the originals.  Additions are good,
> replacements that are subjective and are not factual additions,
> clarifications or well believed changes in fact/situation should, in my
> opinion, not be arbitrarily changed unless by the original author.
>

That makes sense.  I took a few more minutes to look things over, as well as 
try to figure out how these things work in general (I don't have a lot of 
experience with wiki's).

Mostly, what I was thinking (and to use a good example) was Gena's 
modifications to TomTree.  The original TomTree was quite slow (to parse and 
render), then (I believe) Christoph Hormann suggested some improvements 
which Gena implemented, resulting in a much faster TomTree.  Since then, 
Gena (and others?) has made it more and more robust.  It's a tricky 
situation, really.  You don't want to trample on the rights/desires of the 
original author, but at the same time, you'd like to "add to" their work, 
rather than re-invent the wheel.  I kind of worry about something like 43 
grass macros ending up on the site, and the best one(s) are difficult to 
distinguish.  Conversely, I don't think we want 43 minnor modifications of 
Gilles MakeGrass ("creates yellow grass", "creates lavender grass", etc.) or 
do we?

I think I'm largely thinking aloud.  I'm just curious how this will evolve, 
and I'm hoping that the good/best things don't get lost by the sheer volume 
of sub-par things.

-- 
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com

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Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
> "Neil Kolban" <kol### [at] kolbancom> wrote in message 
> news:41dd957e$1@news.povray.org...
> 
>>Jeremy,
>>By adding/improving ... I assume you mean the objects and not the page?
> 
> 
> Correct
> 
> 
>>My suggestion would be to have the new objects added separately from those
>>that were originally posted.  For POV objects, those came from the mind of
>>the creator.  Improvements are subjective.  Ideally, the original creator
>>could look and see if new objects have been posted and then elect to 
>>replace
>>the originals with the new and remove the originals.  Additions are good,
>>replacements that are subjective and are not factual additions,
>>clarifications or well believed changes in fact/situation should, in my
>>opinion, not be arbitrarily changed unless by the original author.
>>
> 
> 
> That makes sense.  I took a few more minutes to look things over, as well as 
> try to figure out how these things work in general (I don't have a lot of 
> experience with wiki's).
> 
> Mostly, what I was thinking (and to use a good example) was Gena's 
> modifications to TomTree.  The original TomTree was quite slow (to parse and 
> render), then (I believe) Christoph Hormann suggested some improvements 
> which Gena implemented, resulting in a much faster TomTree.  Since then, 
> Gena (and others?) has made it more and more robust.  It's a tricky 
> situation, really.  You don't want to trample on the rights/desires of the 
> original author, but at the same time, you'd like to "add to" their work, 
> rather than re-invent the wheel.  I kind of worry about something like 43 
> grass macros ending up on the site, and the best one(s) are difficult to 
> distinguish.  Conversely, I don't think we want 43 minnor modifications of 
> Gilles MakeGrass ("creates yellow grass", "creates lavender grass", etc.) or 
> do we?
> 
> I think I'm largely thinking aloud.  I'm just curious how this will evolve, 
> and I'm hoping that the good/best things don't get lost by the sheer volume 
> of sub-par things.
> 
I guess this is where the wiki-fairies step in and do some weeding and 
pruning, selecting the best macro's and moving the rest into the bitbucket.
-- 
Maurice

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Maurice wrote:
> Jeremy M. Praay wrote:
>>
>> I think I'm largely thinking aloud.  I'm just curious how this will 
>> evolve, and I'm hoping that the good/best things don't get lost by the 
>> sheer volume of sub-par things.
>>
> I guess this is where the wiki-fairies step in and do some weeding and 
> pruning, selecting the best macro's and moving the rest into the bitbucket.


They already have been ;)

I have been watching the recent changes page:

http://wiki.org/ow.asp?RecentChanges

looking at the diff's shows the nature of the changes.  A good portion 
is the work of the wiki fairies.

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in news:41dedc92$1@news.povray.org Maurice wrote:

> I guess this is where the wiki-fairies step in and do some weeding
> and pruning, selecting the best macro's and moving the rest into the
> bitbucket. 
> 

exactly.

for developing versions of macro's, include's etc. you can use subpages, 
they are used to keep some hyrarchy in evolving content.
MyMacro
MyMacro\NewVersion
    ...\BrightRedVersion
    ...\ObscureVersion
etc.

Ingo

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On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 16:54:26 -0500, Tom Galvin <tom### [at] impnospamorg>
wrote:

> A good portion 
>is the work of the wiki fairies.

Could it be the wiki step-mother :-)


Regards
        Stephen

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