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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 28 Sep 1998 03:17:57
Message: <361426a9.436588571@news.povray.org>
"Tom Galvin" <tga### [at] dataforgecom> wrote:

>>We (the collective 'we' here being, I suppose, any non-American English
>>speaker, though I can hardly profess to speak for all of them) don't mind
>>Americans changing the language in the least
>
>If we exclude the English and the Americans then we are left with the Kiwis,
>Aussies, Irish, Welsh and the Scots. Any one who has heard those
>interpretations of English should have little to say about American English.

Precisely. So we don't complain about their english, just about the fact that a
few of them rudely complain about _ours_.

This is the whole point, one that some readers have failed to 'get'. We're all
welcome to do whatever we like to our own regional variations of English. But
none of us should go about implying that someone else lacks intelligence (as
Jason did to us) because that other person uses their own, regional, variation
of English spelling (regardless of whether or not it is 'true' English as the
English spell it).

No-one here has said the Americans have it wrong, and the Aussies/Irish/Kiwis
etc. have it right. Just that we're not wrong, either (yes, it's possible for
both of us to be right).

Had I been an Australian user of a software package and had written to an
American firm rudely questioning their intelligence because they spelt minimise
with a 'z' then I would have been just as guilty. But I won't, because I know
that Americans have their own spelling and I respect that fact.

I've never yet personally come across a software package that does menu and
documentation spelling substitutions based on the country settings - not even
Microsoft Word [a likely candidate] does that. [FWIW Word does correctly mark
words such as 'minimize' as incorrectly spelt, and suggests the 's' variation,
when set to British English].

Therefore, software (for the time being) is likely to continue to come out with
its own regional spelling in documentation and menus, and there's little that
can be done about it except just accept it.


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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 28 Sep 1998 03:18:39
Message: <36152a62.437541040@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>povray.org admin team wrote:
>
>> world (see http://www.povray.org/groups.html for an explanation as to why).
>
>Sorry for being off topic but I noticed on the above list
>you don't have a lising for povray.binaries.programming.
>An oversight or omission ?

Good catch. I'll add it in next time I've editing that page.


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From: Robert H  Morrison
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 28 Sep 1998 12:33:31
Message: <01bdeafd$f646c320$40563fc3@hitex_mo.hitex.de>
> 
> > Does he even OWN an English language dictionary?
> 
> Because one person is rude does that excuse YOU to be rude towards that person or
> any other ?
> 

Ahhh... but that's the whole catch isn't it?

Someone who reports misspellings without even verifying that he is correct
by consulting a dictionary one can only ASSUME that he doesn't own one,
othewise one would be forced to make rude assumptions as to his intelligence
which of course we wouldn't want to do, OR???

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From: Tom Galvin
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 28 Sep 1998 12:39:31
Message: <360fadb3.0@news.povray.org>
povray.org admin team wrote in message
<361426a9.436588571@news.povray.org>...
>"Tom Galvin" <tga### [at] dataforgecom> wrote:
>
>>>We (the collective 'we' here being, I suppose, any non-American English
>>>speaker, though I can hardly profess to speak for all of them) don't mind
>>>Americans changing the language in the least

>This is the whole point, one that some readers have failed to 'get'.

Whoa Tex!  I think everyone has gotten the point.  I wasn't meaning to bash
anyone.  I was just poking fun at the different dialects of English.  I grew
up surrounded by Brouges and Bronx accents that were constantly harping on
my use of the English language.
    There aint no such word as aint...
    Don't say "me and Joe", it's "Joe and me"
Tom


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From: povray org admin team
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 28 Sep 1998 20:48:43
Message: <36101ffa.354760@news.povray.org>
"Tom Galvin" <tga### [at] dataforgecom> wrote:

>
>povray.org admin team wrote in message
><361426a9.436588571@news.povray.org>...
>>"Tom Galvin" <tga### [at] dataforgecom> wrote:
>>
>>>>We (the collective 'we' here being, I suppose, any non-American English
>>>>speaker, though I can hardly profess to speak for all of them) don't mind
>>>>Americans changing the language in the least
>
>>This is the whole point, one that some readers have failed to 'get'.
>
>Whoa Tex!  I think everyone has gotten the point.  I wasn't meaning to bash
>anyone.  I was just poking fun at the different dialects of English.  I grew
>up surrounded by Brouges and Bronx accents that were constantly harping on
>my use of the English language.
>    There aint no such word as aint...
>    Don't say "me and Joe", it's "Joe and me"

                  bau### [at] thiazicscornelledu (Garth Baulch)
                       Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY
                          (rec_humor_cull, chuckle)

A linguistics professor was lecturing to his class one day about the fact that
in many languages, such as English, a double negative forms a positive, while
in other languages, such as Russian, a double negative is still a negative.
"However," he pointed out, "in no language can a double positive form a
negative." 

A bored voice from the back of the room responded, "Yeah, yeah...."


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From: F VERBAAS
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 29 Sep 1998 18:53:43
Message: <361156e7.0@news.povray.org>
To avoid annoying discussions on dialects and grammar changing with time I
herewith propose to make Latin the official language for POV. It is well
defined, it has been pretty stable over the last two millennia, it and it
does not use composed characters.

Frans


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 29 Sep 1998 20:27:45
Message: <36116cf1.0@news.povray.org>
Scientia est potestas!!!

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 29 Sep 1998 20:35:27
Message: <36116E98.8040335A@pacbell.net>
Lance Birch wrote:

> Scientia est potestas!!!

Morituri' Pov Saluta'mus  (we about to pov salute thee)

K.Tyler


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 29 Sep 1998 21:41:00
Message: <36117e1c.0@news.povray.org>
Sona si Latine loqueris!!!

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Lance.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: This year's most ARROGANT email
Date: 29 Sep 1998 23:40:58
Message: <36119A0E.CED5BDFD@pacbell.net>
Ve'ni, vi'di, vi'ci, di'es ir'ae.
Vae vic'tis, sic tran'sit glo'ria mun'di.

Ke'n


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