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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Mars, if it had water
Date: 20 Aug 1999 10:36:24
Message: <37bd67e8@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:37:00 +0800, Morpheus Dreamlord wrote:
>ignorance is not a mistake, and is not a wrong thing, 
>
>what is wrong is making ignorance a virtue, almost a god, and refusing
>to acknowledge that one does not know something.
>
>my point is made by the fact that he reposted the file as jpg..  hence
>he must know something about jpg..  so why the bitmap in the first
>place?

Probably because that's what POV for Windows generates by default,
and the issue of bandwidth hadn't occured to him until it was
too late.  In any case, there's a difference between ignorance and
stupidity, and you accused him (and, apparently, most people - depends
on who you meant by "them") of being too stupid to use JPG or PNG.

Besides, in his other posts Chuck has been more than forthcoming about
the fact that he's new to POV and new to this server and thus ignorant
of the syntax and the local customs.  I don't see anyone making a god
or even a virtue out of ignorance here.  

There are polite ways and there are impolite ways to let someone know
they did something wrong.  There's not a lot of evidence that the 
impolite ways are any more effective at that job.

But, I've been in too many flamewars already this month, so that's the
last I'm gonna say on it.  You either get it or you don't.


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From: Fred Martinez
Subject: Re: Mars, if it had water
Date: 21 Aug 1999 19:59:40
Message: <37BF3DE6.7D77C64D@communique.net>
Morpheus Dreamlord wrote:

> ignorance is not a mistake, and is not a wrong thing,
>
> what is wrong is making ignorance a virtue, almost a god, and refusing
> to acknowledge that one does not know something.
>
> my point is made by the fact that he reposted the file as jpg..  hence
> he must know something about jpg..  so why the bitmap in the first
> place?
>
> Ron Parker wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:12:18 +0800, Morpheus Dreamlord
> > <mor### [at] excitecom> wrote:
> >
> > >'cos most of em are too stupid to use png or jpg....
> >
> > I don't think that was really necessary, do you?  We all
> > make mistakes sometimes.
>
> --
>
> Politicians - It seems to me that the worst of them could convince me
> that horse shit tastes like honey-cake; the best of them would leave
> me believing that I alone in all the world had failed
> to enjoy its flavour.
>
> The individual is more important then the state!

  So instead of helping solve the problem of ignorance you arrogantly
criticize with out any effort to help solve the problem.


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From: Morpheus Dreamlord
Subject: Re: Mars, if it had water
Date: 22 Aug 1999 01:01:13
Message: <37BF840F.7DBA947E@excite.com>
I am under no obligation to educate people, I feel no duty whatsoever to
other human beings, and what I do I do by my own choice.

There is enough info available on graphic formats (but so damn few can
actually be bothered to self-teach - most just moan and want someone
else to do the search work for them)

Fred Martinez wrote:
> 
> Morpheus Dreamlord wrote:
> 
> > ignorance is not a mistake, and is not a wrong thing,
> >
> > what is wrong is making ignorance a virtue, almost a god, and refusing
> > to acknowledge that one does not know something.
> >
> > my point is made by the fact that he reposted the file as jpg..  hence
> > he must know something about jpg..  so why the bitmap in the first
> > place?
> >
> > Ron Parker wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:12:18 +0800, Morpheus Dreamlord
> > > <mor### [at] excitecom> wrote:
> > >
> > > >'cos most of em are too stupid to use png or jpg....
> > >
> > > I don't think that was really necessary, do you?  We all
> > > make mistakes sometimes.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Politicians - It seems to me that the worst of them could convince me
> > that horse shit tastes like honey-cake; the best of them would leave
> > me believing that I alone in all the world had failed
> > to enjoy its flavour.
> >
> > The individual is more important then the state!
> 
>   So instead of helping solve the problem of ignorance you arrogantly
> criticize with out any effort to help solve the problem.

-- 

Politicians - It seems to me that the worst of them could convince me
that horse shit tastes like honey-cake; the best of them would leave
me believing that I alone in all the world had failed
to enjoy its flavour.

The individual is more important then the state!


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