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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Protein Complexes
Date: 17 Aug 2012 08:15:00
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Christian Froeschlin <chr### [at] chrfrde> wrote:
> Great image, I especially like the green whatever-that-is-helix.
>
> I'll be sure to check the cover when visiting the library ;)
>
> The only thing I wondered is if the illumination might be too bland.
> As far as I understand the process it is perfectly diffuse AO/radiosity
> (is the model itself emissive?). Some harder shadows might increase the
> perception of depth and 3d structure. Especially the blue "heads" feel
> a bit surreal to me (which can of course be a good thing, too).
>
> I realize of course that actual light would just diffract like hell
> instead of giving any sort of shadow, but then actual light wouldn't
> give you this image anyway ;)

Thanks Christian. The green helix is actin. As for the lighting, most EM images
that I've seen have more of an ambient occlusion shading to them, so I chose to
use three subtle shadowless lights and an EXR environment, relying on the
ambient occlusion pass for the darker detail (and getting slightly faster render
times). The models are not emmisive, but the subsurface pass adds what I felt
was just the right amount of "glowiness."

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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Protein Complexes
Date: 17 Aug 2012 08:25:00
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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:

> More than excellent indeed. I hope this image will make it to the
> Science cover.

Thanks Thomas, me too!

> Maybe one small comment: those yellow objects all seem to twist in an
> identical way. Is this intentional or is it just the result of instancing?

It is instancing, yes. Those were the last parts that I worked on and I had
planned to make the red stalks be more randomized and twisted, flexing in
various ways as if by Brownian motion in an aqueous solution. But I was already
approching deadline (imagine that!) and had to deal with a drive crash, replace
& restore that took far too long. So I finally just had to go with it as-is.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Protein Complexes
Date: 17 Aug 2012 14:06:41
Message: <502e8831$1@news.povray.org>
On 16/08/2012 11:55 PM, Robert McGregor wrote:
> And here is just the final comp
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> www.McGregorFineArt.com
>

It is really quite beautiful. With a good story I could mistake it for a 
railway, an alien one of course. ;-)

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     Stephen


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From: Robert McGregor
Subject: Re: Protein Complexes
Date: 17 Aug 2012 17:00:01
Message: <web.502eb0cdc36bb29af7aa22b40@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 16/08/2012 11:55 PM, Robert McGregor wrote:
> > And here is just the final comp
> > -------------------------------------------------
> > www.McGregorFineArt.com
> >
>
> It is really quite beautiful. With a good story I could mistake it for a
> railway, an alien one of course. ;-)
>
> --
> Regards
>      Stephen

Thanks Stephen :)

I had started a bizarro railway shot for TC-TRC but hadn't gotten far when this
protein complex came my way, and it took far longer than I expected, especially
the final render at 3300 x 4400 px.

While I appreciate the hint, I wouldn't feel right about just "calling" it a
railway... besides, I thought the entries were closed already!

Well, according to the ticker I still have 3 hours, I suppose I can do a little
more work and post my half finished bizarro railway after all.

Cheers,
Rob
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Protein Complexes
Date: 18 Aug 2012 04:47:07
Message: <502f568b$1@news.povray.org>
On 17/08/2012 9:59 PM, Robert McGregor wrote:
> Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
>> It is really quite beautiful. With a good story I could mistake it for a
>> railway, an alien one of course. ;-)
>>
>
> Thanks Stephen :)
>

It is true.

> I had started a bizarro railway shot for TC-TRC but hadn't gotten far when this
> protein complex came my way, and it took far longer than I expected, especially
> the final render at 3300 x 4400 px.
>
> While I appreciate the hint, I wouldn't feel right about just "calling" it a
> railway... besides, I thought the entries were closed already!
>
I know I was just drumming up custom ;-)
The closing date confuses me too.

> Well, according to the ticker I still have 3 hours, I suppose I can do a little
> more work and post my half finished bizarro railway after all.
>
Nice one. If you ever get round to finishing it please post the result. :-D


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     Stephen


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