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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Old & New (Elephant Dream)
Date: 26 Mar 2009 11:08:38
Message: <49cb9a76@news.povray.org>
I revisited an older scene from 2002-2003 and updated/changed/added to it, 
then rendered in version 3.7 beta 31. The smaller image is the old original. 
I clearly had a strange notion at that time,  of how media should look like 
:-)

Still, in the latest version, some improvements are yet possible in media 
samples, radiosity count and smoother aa. However, I am already satisfied 
with this.

Elephant from the Taschen Collection.

Thomas


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Old & New (Elephant Dream)
Date: 26 Mar 2009 13:50:00
Message: <web.49cbbfa84439681293bfb07f0@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> I revisited an older scene from 2002-2003 and updated/changed/added to it,
> then rendered in version 3.7 beta 31. The smaller image is the old original.
> I clearly had a strange notion at that time,  of how media should look like
> :-)
>
> Still, in the latest version, some improvements are yet possible in media
> samples, radiosity count and smoother aa. However, I am already satisfied
> with this.

Very strong motif!

I don't like the contrast of the revisited shot, though. A *bit* more light on
the dreaming elephant, please!

Also, the shot looks to me like there is a wall outside, which I reckon is *not*
intentional.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Old & New (Elephant Dream)
Date: 26 Mar 2009 16:40:21
Message: <49cbe835$1@news.povray.org>
Makes much more sense than the Blender movie. ;)

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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Old & New (Elephant Dream)
Date: 27 Mar 2009 03:57:32
Message: <49cc86ec$1@news.povray.org>
"clipka" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht 
news:web.49cbbfa84439681293bfb07f0@news.povray.org...
>
> Very strong motif!

Thanks!

>
> I don't like the contrast of the revisited shot, though. A *bit* more 
> light on
> the dreaming elephant, please!

Correct. Between the two images, a backwall (with window) and a roof have 
been added, and a spotlight removed.

>
> Also, the shot looks to me like there is a wall outside, which I reckon is 
> *not*
> intentional.

Oh, but there is a wall indeed! and intentional too!  :-)  Between the two 
farthest elephants. The dream is layered, you see?

However, the intention is to make the wall more irregular.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Old & New (Elephant Dream)
Date: 27 Mar 2009 03:58:15
Message: <49cc8717$1@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:49cbe835$1@news.povray.org...
> Makes much more sense than the Blender movie. ;)
>

<grin>

Thomas


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From: Kenneth
Subject: Re: Old & New (Elephant Dream)
Date: 27 Mar 2009 05:15:00
Message: <web.49cc97ef44396812f50167bc0@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:

>
> Correct. Between the two images, a backwall (with window) and a roof have
> been added, and a spotlight removed.
>

I kind of *like* the spotlight effect--looks more 'pictorial' (if less
realistic.) This is just my personal preference in images: more theatrical!
Almost to the point of non-realism. The way I 'see' my own images is with more
of a cinematographer's eye--heightened realism and lighting, as opposed to
plain old dull realism ;-)

KW


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Old & New (Elephant Dream)
Date: 27 Mar 2009 10:53:39
Message: <49cce873@news.povray.org>
"Kenneth" <kdw### [at] earthlinknet> schreef in bericht 
news:web.49cc97ef44396812f50167bc0@news.povray.org...
> I kind of *like* the spotlight effect--looks more 'pictorial' (if less
> realistic.) This is just my personal preference in images: more 
> theatrical!
> Almost to the point of non-realism. The way I 'see' my own images is with 
> more
> of a cinematographer's eye--heightened realism and lighting, as opposed to
> plain old dull realism ;-)
>

I might indeed restore the spotlight (or spotlights even) but much dimmer 
than in the original, and possibly more colorfull...

Thomas


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Old & New (Elephant Dream)
Date: 27 Mar 2009 12:35:00
Message: <web.49ccff6a44396812208afb30@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> Oh, but there is a wall indeed! and intentional too!  :-)  Between the two
> farthest elephants. The dream is layered, you see?

Oh - okay... that indeed explains why it *looks* like that ;)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Old & New (Elephant Dream)
Date: 28 Mar 2009 04:05:25
Message: <49cdda45@news.povray.org>
"clipka" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht 
news:web.49ccff6a44396812208afb30@news.povray.org...
>
> Oh - okay... that indeed explains why it *looks* like that ;)

Yes, I know, the wall does not look too good here. It is a fast 'n dirty 
difference of cylinders. My usual method of work: first a dirty job, then 
cleaning the mess up  :-)

Thomas


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From: Eriban
Subject: Re: Old & New (Elephant Dream)
Date: 28 Mar 2009 05:55:01
Message: <web.49cdf3304439681281475b100@news.povray.org>
"clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> I don't like the contrast of the revisited shot, though. A *bit* more light on
> the dreaming elephant, please!

I have viewed the new image on two different computers, and the contrast looks
completely different. On my Mac at home the contrast is looking pretty okay;
you can clearly make out the details of the little elephant. However, on my
Windows machine at work is pretty much solid black, hardly distinguishable from
the rest of its surroundings.

This is something I still struggle with with my own images as well. Depending on
the computer, the image format, or even the application I use to view it, the
image can look significantly different. This makes fine-tuning of the color and
light settings quite difficult of course.

Anyway, I like where this image is going.

Cheers,

Erwin


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