"clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> > > Does anyone have experience with DAZ's Millenium Cat, whether it is any
> > > better in this respect?
> >
> > No. I have not tried it. Is it with the standard package?
>
> You mean the stuff available for free on DAZ3D? If it was among that, I'd have
> tried it myself for the "Cat Chess" shot already ;)
>
> No, unfortunately it costs money. That's why I'm asking - if it was good enough
> I'd probably invest the money (me being all mad about cats), but I don't want
> to buy a pig in a poke... or, as we happen to say in German, the cat in the bag
> ;)

I'm not sure I should break it on you, but the LE version of the DAZ cat has
been free for years, included in the 3D bridge starter pack.
http://www.daz3d.com/i/3d-models/-/3d-bridge-starter?item=5504&_m=d
The pack's price has moved from 0 to 230$ on the first of january. :-S
I expect they are going to make a new free starter pack sooner or later, but
it's anybody's guess if it'll include a cat model or not.

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"Grassblade" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> I'm not sure I should break it on you, but the LE version of the DAZ cat has
> been free for years, included in the 3D bridge starter pack.

OMG - tell me this isn't true - tell me you're kiddin' me... tell me this isn't
some (previously) free content that somehow slipped past me unnoticed...!

Blood-stained excrement of a male bovine...

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"Grassblade" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht 
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>
> I'm not sure I should break it on you, but the LE version of the DAZ cat 
> has
> been free for years, included in the 3D bridge starter pack.
> http://www.daz3d.com/i/3d-models/-/3d-bridge-starter?item=5504&_m=d
> The pack's price has moved from 0 to 230$ on the first of january. :-S
> I expect they are going to make a new free starter pack sooner or later, 
> but
> it's anybody's guess if it'll include a cat model or not.
>

Wasn't it free only for Platinum Club members? I am certainly not one of 
those.

Thomas

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"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> Wasn't it free only for Platinum Club members? I am certainly not one of
> those.

Still blood-stained excrements, because me, I am. Wanted to have the complete
Morphing Fantasy Dress set (plus some), and figured it would be the least
expensive way to get it.

I guess it actually pays off, provided you plan on getting some additional basic
stuff anyway. There's a lot of models you can get for just $1.99 apiece as a
Platinum member. Including, as I just found out - ta-daaaah! - the Millenium
Cat (Limited Edition; or actually all of the Millenium LE stuff as it seems...
they don't come with textures though, so again blood-stained droppings. The Mil
Cat in that bundle, btw, is LE as well.)

However, from what I see in demo shots of the Mil Cat or expansion packs for it,
it seems to suffer from similar weaknesses as the Poser Cat when it comes to
sitting poses (although possibly not as extreme). So it might not even be worth
the $1.99, given that you need to pay extra for textures.

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"clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> "Grassblade" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > I'm not sure I should break it on you, but the LE version of the DAZ cat has
> > been free for years, included in the 3D bridge starter pack.
>
> OMG - tell me this isn't true - tell me you're kiddin' me... tell me this isn't
> some (previously) free content that somehow slipped past me unnoticed...!

....

:-(


> Blood-stained excrement of a male bovine...

Yeah, that.

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"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
>
> Wasn't it free only for Platinum Club members? I am certainly not one of
> those.
>
> Thomas

No it was free for everyone. DAZ doesn't advertise much the free content they
give when you join the platinum club. I had to dig in their forums to find out
what they give there.

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"clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>
> Still blood-stained excrements, because me, I am. Wanted to have the complete
> Morphing Fantasy Dress set (plus some), and figured it would be the least
> expensive way to get it.
>
> I guess it actually pays off, provided you plan on getting some additional basic
> stuff anyway. There's a lot of models you can get for just $1.99 apiece as a
> Platinum member. Including, as I just found out - ta-daaaah! - the Millenium
> Cat (Limited Edition; or actually all of the Millenium LE stuff as it seems...
> they don't come with textures though, so again blood-stained droppings. The Mil
> Cat in that bundle, btw, is LE as well.)
>
> However, from what I see in demo shots of the Mil Cat or expansion packs for it,
> it seems to suffer from similar weaknesses as the Poser Cat when it comes to
> sitting poses (although possibly not as extreme). So it might not even be worth
> the $1.99, given that you need to pay extra for textures.

I broke down and bought a plat subscription late last year.
Anyway, regarding the DAZ cat you can find some free everyday poses here:
http://www.sharecg.com/v/23746/poser/Everyday-MilCat-Poses?division_id=11
and decide if it looks more realistic than the Poser one. I haven't had a cat
since I was a kid, so I'm not well placed to determine how real they look.

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Grassblade nous illumina en ce 2009-01-11 08:28 -->
> "clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>> Still blood-stained excrements, because me, I am. Wanted to have the complete
>> Morphing Fantasy Dress set (plus some), and figured it would be the least
>> expensive way to get it.
>>
>> I guess it actually pays off, provided you plan on getting some additional basic
>> stuff anyway. There's a lot of models you can get for just $1.99 apiece as a
>> Platinum member. Including, as I just found out - ta-daaaah! - the Millenium
>> Cat (Limited Edition; or actually all of the Millenium LE stuff as it seems...
>> they don't come with textures though, so again blood-stained droppings. The Mil
>> Cat in that bundle, btw, is LE as well.)
>>
>> However, from what I see in demo shots of the Mil Cat or expansion packs for it,
>> it seems to suffer from similar weaknesses as the Poser Cat when it comes to
>> sitting poses (although possibly not as extreme). So it might not even be worth
>> the $1.99, given that you need to pay extra for textures.
> 
> I broke down and bought a plat subscription late last year.
> Anyway, regarding the DAZ cat you can find some free everyday poses here:
> http://www.sharecg.com/v/23746/poser/Everyday-MilCat-Poses?division_id=11
> and decide if it looks more realistic than the Poser one. I haven't had a cat
> since I was a kid, so I'm not well placed to determine how real they look.
> 
> 
Some are quite natural looking to me, some others, not so.

The cat in the arms is ok exept for the head, should be higher, probably set to 
the other side.

Stretching pose at top, never saw any cat in a position aproatching that, but I 
saw dogs do...

The cats on ther back and side are ok to good.

The one in the "Sphinx" position is wrong: the back legs should be symetrical, 
one on each side and almost under the belly. Dogs do take that pose.

Croutched cat looking down is good, but maybe not low enough.

Cat on back legs is prety good.

Cats are amblers, they walk by moving the legs on the same side, not crossed 
like the walking one at the top. That one walk like a dog, not a cat.

The menassing cat on the left is convincing.


I think that several "cat" poses are actualy dog poses applied to a cat model.

-- 
Alain
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WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause pregnancy.

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"clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
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 > There's a lot of models you can get for just $1.99 apiece

    Sorry, but I'll never get the 'buy the model' thing that's been 
happening for the last 8 or so years. Have you seen some of the prices? 
Damn, my comp. must be worth a fortune...

    ~Steve~

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St. wrote:
> "clipka" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
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> 
>  > There's a lot of models you can get for just $1.99 apiece
> 
>     Sorry, but I'll never get the 'buy the model' thing that's been 
> happening for the last 8 or so years. 


Me neither, but for you and me making the model is the fun part. 
Someone else is all about the lighting or the narrative, or framing the 
scene,... more like a director.  They don't care much about making the 
model but it's cool that they recognize that the art should be paid for. 
  I think it's all good.

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