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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: One Word
Date: 31 Dec 2008 03:15:45
Message: <495b2a31$1@news.povray.org>
"stbenge" <^@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht 
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> Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> "clipka" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht 
>> news:web.4959be41877dfbf3ab169ede0@news.povray.org...
>>> (*... wanders off into nostalgic dreams...*)
>>>
>> We, grumbling old men, lwe ived before your blessed Lego generation :-)
>
> Hah, I knew it :)

<grin>
>
>> But we had Schucco, and Dincky Toy, and Meccano, and Matchbox to play 
>> with! Ah! Those were the days! I also owned a kind of forerunner to Lego 
>> (don't remember the name just now) also with plastic bricks but a bit 
>> larger...
>
> American Building Bricks? For building houses mainly? If so, we had some 
> hand-me-downs from our mother. Red and white blocks mostly, with smaller, 
> narrower pegs which didn't hold tight. We had a very incomplete set 
> though...
>
I still cannot remember the name... :-(  ...Age...   <grumbling in beard>
Indeed, the bricks were white and red, and also transparant. They often did 
not hold too well either.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: One Word
Date: 31 Dec 2008 03:20:31
Message: <495b2b4f$1@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
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>
> But I'm really surprised any time I see povray newsgroups lurkers, 
> specially
> this age.  I thought povray was just a geek's hobby.  Well, not like as 
> you age
> your geekiness will abandon you... :P
>
>

I have the hunch that the average age of these groups is higher than you 
imagine.... :-)

And geeks come indeed at any age... but we take our hobby veeeerrrryyyy 
seriously!

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: One Word
Date: 31 Dec 2008 03:26:24
Message: <495b2cb0@news.povray.org>
"stbenge" <^@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht 
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> [....] They didn't understand that Legos give only what you put into them, 
> that the lessons learned are useful in other areas. *sigh* :)
>

Absolutely! I am convinced that Meccano prepared me for POV-Ray, among other 
things...

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: One Word
Date: 31 Dec 2008 05:59:46
Message: <2pjml415voftcaqda0mp17gu91nk3kns4e@4ax.com>
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:20:32 +0100, "Thomas de Groot"
<tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:

>
>"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
>news:web.495afd00877dfbf3180057960@news.povray.org...
>>
>> But I'm really surprised any time I see povray newsgroups lurkers, 
>> specially
>> this age.  I thought povray was just a geek's hobby.  Well, not like as 
>> you age
>> your geekiness will abandon you... :P
>>
>>
>
>I have the hunch that the average age of these groups is higher than you 
>imagine.... :-)
>



>And geeks come indeed at any age... but we take our hobby veeeerrrryyyy 
>seriously!

Indeed we do ;)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: One Word
Date: 31 Dec 2008 10:13:17
Message: <495b8c0d@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:20:32 +0100, "Thomas de Groot"
> <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> 
>> I have the hunch that the average age of these groups is higher than you 
>> imagine.... :-)
>>
> 
> There are more things in Heaven and PovRay than in… :)

...radiosity settings

>> And geeks come indeed at any age... but we take our hobby veeeerrrryyyy 
>> seriously!
> 
> Indeed we do ;)

Though I wouldn't consider raytracing as geeky hobby. I think it's more
mathematical hobby.

-Aero


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: One Word
Date: 31 Dec 2008 13:58:05
Message: <495bc0bc@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Though I wouldn't consider raytracing as geeky hobby. I think it's more
> mathematical hobby.

Mathematical geeks.


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: One Word
Date: 31 Dec 2008 14:05:01
Message: <web.495bc1f1877dfbf384d3a0c50@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:

> Though I wouldn't consider raytracing as geeky hobby. I think it's more
> mathematical hobby.
>
> -Aero

Exactly, math is key, hence my triangulation.inc:

I wrote it and would be lost without it, because just figuring all that stuff
out doesn't mean I memorized it, I only know how to use it. I saw the some math
show on pbs about 8 years ago and hit record on the VCR, it was sine and cosine
laws. Everything fell into place after that ...

******************************************************************************
Triangulation.inc      ABC=vectors abc=floats

3D Macros:
  incenter(A,B,C)
  centroid(A,B,C)
  ccenter(A,B,C)                   circumcenter
  orthocenter(A,B,C)
  normal_vector(A,B,C)
  midpoint(A,B)

  rotation(r,Axis,Point)
  _rotate(sine,cosine,Axis,Point)

  circumradius(A,B,C)              float
  inner_radius(A,B,C)              float
  radang3(A,B,C)                   Angle at B in radians
  pyramid_volume(A,B,C,D,E)
  tetrahedron_volume(A,B,C,D)

Functions:
  inneradius(a,b,c)      3 lens
  outeradius(a,b,c)

  sss_area(a,b,c)
  sas_area(s,a,s2)
  bh_area(b,h)           Base Height

  sss_height(a,b,c)      height to side2
  sas_cos(s,a,s2)        Side Angle Side - solve length of missing side

  aas_sin(a,b,s)         AAS solve opposing side of angle2 (b)
  asa_sin(a,s,b)         ASA solve opposing side of angle2 (b)
  sss_cos(a,b,c)         SSS solve angle opposite side2    (b)
  ssa_acute(s,s2,a)      SSA solve angle opposite side2


Float Macros:
  ssa_obtuse(s,s2,a)
  sa_height(s,a)         Side Angle unknown base


etc


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: One Word
Date: 31 Dec 2008 14:55:00
Message: <web.495bcd78877dfbf384d3a0c50@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:

> I still cannot remember the name... :-(  ...Age...   <grumbling in beard>
> Indeed, the bricks were white and red, and also transparant. They often did
> not hold too well either.
>
> Thomas


Yah I noticed something about my new LEGO set; once you place them, they dont
ever fall apart while you're trying to build something, cool! sticky LEGO


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: One Word
Date: 31 Dec 2008 16:30:41
Message: <495be481@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "stbenge" <^@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
>> Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> "clipka" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht
>>>> (*... wanders off into nostalgic dreams...*)
>>>>
>>> We, grumbling old men, lwe ived before your blessed Lego generation :-)
>> Hah, I knew it :)
> 
> <grin>

We all get older, and there's nothing wrong with that :)

>>> with! Ah! Those were the days! I also owned a kind of forerunner to Lego 
>>> (don't remember the name just now) also with plastic bricks but a bit 
>>> larger...
>> American Building Bricks? For building houses mainly? If so, we had some 
>> hand-me-downs from our mother. Red and white blocks mostly, with smaller, 
>> narrower pegs which didn't hold tight. We had a very incomplete set 
>> though...
>>
> I still cannot remember the name... :-(  ...Age...   <grumbling in beard>
> Indeed, the bricks were white and red, and also transparant. They often did 
> not hold too well either.

What you describe sounds like the ones we had. My dad swears to the name 
I mentioned, though the last word might be Blocks and not Bricks.

Sam


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: One Word
Date: 31 Dec 2008 16:39:07
Message: <495be67b@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:
> Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> 
>> Though I wouldn't consider raytracing as geeky hobby. I think it's more
>> mathematical hobby.
>>
>> -Aero
> 
> Exactly, math is key, hence my triangulation.inc:
> 
> I wrote it and would be lost without it, because just figuring all that stuff
> out doesn't mean I memorized it, I only know how to use it. I saw the some math
> show on pbs about 8 years ago and hit record on the VCR, it was sine and cosine
> laws. Everything fell into place after that ...

Thanks to my older brother and his Tandy Color Computer talents, I 
learned the ways of sin/cos before POV. The loop is the engine, sin/cos 
are two parts of a gear, and pi is the number of teeth. It's too much 
fun sometimes :)

Sam


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