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From: jhu
Subject: my pool table with shinier billiard balls
Date: 13 Aug 2008 10:15:04
Message: <web.48a2eb3ee39665358b562d820@news.povray.org>
ok, here are more reflective billiard balls


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From: St 
Subject: Re: my pool table with shinier billiard balls
Date: 13 Aug 2008 10:32:19
Message: <48a2f073$1@news.povray.org>
"jhu" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
news:web.48a2eb3ee39665358b562d820@news.povray.org...
> ok, here are more reflective billiard balls

   Seriously, that's good. Well done, I think I would be smiling like the 
Cheshire Cat if I did that image!  :o)

    How did you do the beize?? I think it's perfect.

    Also, how long did it take to render?

     ~Steve~


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From: Blue Herring
Subject: Re: my pool table with shinier billiard balls
Date: 13 Aug 2008 10:42:37
Message: <48a2f2dd$1@news.povray.org>
jhu wrote:
> ok, here are more reflective billiard balls

Looks really good.  I'd love to see the source, especially that felt 
texture.

-- 
-The Mildly Infamous Blue Herring


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: my pool table with shinier billiard balls
Date: 13 Aug 2008 11:20:20
Message: <48a2fbb4@news.povray.org>
jhu wrote:
> ok, here are more reflective billiard balls

  Even a red billiard ball will have a whitish reflection/highlight from
a bright source of light. (This is due to the physical reflective
properties of materials.)

  It might look better if you allow the reflection to have the color of
the incoming light.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: my pool table with shinier billiard balls
Date: 13 Aug 2008 11:21:02
Message: <48a2fbde$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   Even a red billiard ball will have a whitish reflection/highlight from
> a bright source of light. (This is due to the physical reflective
> properties of materials.)
> 
>   It might look better if you allow the reflection to have the color of
> the incoming light.

  Forgot to mention that this will make the black ball to have a
reflection as well, which will make it look better.


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From: jhu
Subject: Re: my pool table with shinier billiard balls
Date: 13 Aug 2008 13:35:00
Message: <web.48a31a699c5df9ddc64c67c0@news.povray.org>
where should the light(s) be placed? i'm guessing somewhere by the "window", but
the background is just an image.

Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   Even a red billiard ball will have a whitish reflection/highlight from
> > a bright source of light. (This is due to the physical reflective
> > properties of materials.)
> >
> >   It might look better if you allow the reflection to have the color of
> > the incoming light.
>
>   Forgot to mention that this will make the black ball to have a
> reflection as well, which will make it look better.


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From: Cousin Ricky
Subject: Re: my pool table with shinier billiard balls
Date: 13 Aug 2008 13:35:00
Message: <web.48a31aae9c5df9dd85de7b680@news.povray.org>
"jhu" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> ok, here are more reflective billiard balls

I suggest cranking up the ambient on the ceiling lights to something
ridiculous--like 5.0 or so (unless it's an HDR light probe, in which case i
don't know what i'm talking about, so never mind).  I want to see some
HIGHLIGHTS.  :-)  And since billiard balls are non-metallic, they should
reflect the colors of the lights and objects that they're relecting.  I
generally use something like this for glossy things:

   finish
   {  reflection { 0 0.4 /* no color here */ fresnel }
      specular 1 roughness 0.001
   }
   interior { ior 1.5 }


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From: jhu
Subject: Re: my pool table with shinier billiard balls
Date: 13 Aug 2008 14:15:01
Message: <web.48a323db9c5df9ddc64c67c0@news.povray.org>
Well, it is HDRI, so any help in that regard is appreciated.

"Cousin Ricky" <ric### [at] yahoocom> wrote:
> "jhu" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > ok, here are more reflective billiard balls
>
> I suggest cranking up the ambient on the ceiling lights to something
> ridiculous--like 5.0 or so (unless it's an HDR light probe, in which case i
> don't know what i'm talking about, so never mind).  I want to see some
> HIGHLIGHTS.  :-)  And since billiard balls are non-metallic, they should
> reflect the colors of the lights and objects that they're relecting.  I
> generally use something like this for glossy things:
>
>    finish
>    {  reflection { 0 0.4 /* no color here */ fresnel }
>       specular 1 roughness 0.001
>    }
>    interior { ior 1.5 }


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From: jhu
Subject: Re: my pool table with shinier billiard balls
Date: 13 Aug 2008 15:55:00
Message: <web.48a33b729c5df9ddc64c67c0@news.povray.org>
The billiard balls are all CSG constructs. The only image mapped textures are
the HDRI and the felt for the table.

Blue Herring <pov### [at] bherringcotsenet> wrote:
> jhu wrote:
> > ok, here are more reflective billiard balls
>
> Looks really good.  I'd love to see the source, especially that felt
> texture.
>
> --
> -The Mildly Infamous Blue Herring


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: my pool table with shinier billiard balls
Date: 13 Aug 2008 16:49:32
Message: <48a348dc$1@news.povray.org>
jhu wrote:
> where should the light(s) be placed? i'm guessing somewhere by the "window", but
> the background is just an image.

  I didn't suggest adding light sources. I suggested defining a regular
reflection for your balls which do not filter the reflected light.


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