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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: House Project
Date: 3 Mar 2008 10:58:57
Message: <47cc2041$1@news.povray.org>

> And an area light was used once, but it added a ton of extra time for the
> animation, and It wouldn't have been done in time for the actual due date.

Did you see my previous post? I have access to some 8-core machines.


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From: Alain
Subject: Re: House Project
Date: 3 Mar 2008 16:03:17
Message: <47cc6795$1@news.povray.org>
Nimish Ajmani nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2008/03/03 07:58:
> "Kirk Andrews" <kir### [at] tektonartcom> wrote:
>> Hmmm...what radiosity settings are you using?  And do you have ambient lighting
>> turned off?
>>
>> If you really want to add some extra realism (and extra render time), use an
>> area light.  Don't use it in the animation, of course.
> 
> I am using the default radiosity settings.  I never used radiosity before this,
> but I am still toying with effects.
> 
> And an area light was used once, but it added a ton of extra time for the
> animation, and It wouldn't have been done in time for the actual due date.
> 
> I'll toy with the settings a bit more.  If you have any ideas, by al means, I
> would like to know them.
> 
> -Nimish
> 
A way to greatly accelerate area_light is to add adaptive 0 or adaptive 1 if you 
get artefacts. That way, your area_light is almost as fast as a regular light 
for most of the scene, it only slow down in the penumbrae. Optimum aray for 
adaptive are: 5, 9, 17, 33, 65,... Even in the penumgrae, an adaptive area_light 
don't sample every points of the array, just those whose neibours are different.

-- 
Alain
-------------------------------------------------
You know you've been raytracing too long when you read about an algorithm or 
datastructure and your first thought is: "How can I use this to speed up 
raytracing?"
Christoph Rieder


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From: St 
Subject: Re: House Project
Date: 4 Mar 2008 12:31:14
Message: <47cd8762@news.povray.org>
"Nimish Ajmani" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
news:web.47cb1c9ccfb38859835874580@news.povray.org...

     Very nice, but my only crit would be to tan the coffee table glass a 
little as it's quite hard to see at the moment, (for me anyway), but keep up 
the good work, it's looking good!

        ~Steve~



> -Nimish


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From: Nimish Ajmani
Subject: Re: House Project
Date: 4 Mar 2008 19:55:00
Message: <web.47cdee50cfb38859835874580@news.povray.org>
Thanks to everyone for all of the critique.  WE had to show our teacher to day
our progress, and he was extremely pleased with my work.  Thanks to all who
helped with it.

I'll post new pics soon, but I've started the animation portion, so I might
intersperse an animation here or there.


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From: Spock
Subject: Re: House Project
Date: 4 Mar 2008 21:33:49
Message: <47ce068d$1@news.povray.org>
A suggestion for the animation...  take the ceiling off all the rooms 
and start your flight path by looking down from above...  like a floor 
plan or 2-D drawing...  then drop down into one of the rooms and wander 
about on a spline path.

Love the work so far.  Won't be offended if you ignore this suggestion :-)

Nimish Ajmani wrote:
> Thanks to everyone for all of the critique.  WE had to show our teacher to day
> our progress, and he was extremely pleased with my work.  Thanks to all who
> helped with it.
> 
> I'll post new pics soon, but I've started the animation portion, so I might
> intersperse an animation here or there.
> 
> 
>


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From: Nimish Ajmani
Subject: Re: House Project
Date: 4 Mar 2008 22:10:00
Message: <web.47ce0ea7cfb38859835874580@news.povray.org>
Spock <Spo### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> A suggestion for the animation...  take the ceiling off all the rooms
> and start your flight path by looking down from above...  like a floor
> plan or 2-D drawing...  then drop down into one of the rooms and wander
> about on a spline path.
>
> Love the work so far.  Won't be offended if you ignore this suggestion :-)
>

I had already planned a spline for a fly-around, but I love the idea of
"dropping in a room."  I will include it, and thank you for your suggestion.

-Nimish


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: House Project
Date: 5 Mar 2008 15:07:22
Message: <47cefd7a$1@news.povray.org>


>> I did that so I could have an animated tour made for the house.  
>> Unfortunately,
>> radiosity makes that kinda diffucult, as the project is due friday, 
>> and It's
>> taking several minutes per frame, for nearly 10000 frames.
> 
> I can help you with slow renders, but unfortunately my system might 
> cause problems with radiosity... Could be worth a try anyway. Email me 
> the sources as they are now (unfinished), and I'll try a few dozen 
> frames. If it ends up working correctly, I could do the full render when 
> you're done modeling.

I tried a radiosity scene to see if it worked correctly. And indeed, I 
have a problem... The progress bar goes *nuts* during the prerender 
radiosity passes :) But that seems to be the only problem.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: House Project
Date: 5 Mar 2008 15:12:58
Message: <47cefeca$1@news.povray.org>


>> I can help you with slow renders, but unfortunately my system might 
>> cause problems with radiosity... Could be worth a try anyway. Email me 
>> the sources as they are now (unfinished), and I'll try a few dozen 
>> frames. If it ends up working correctly, I could do the full render 
>> when you're done modeling.
> 
> I tried a radiosity scene to see if it worked correctly. And indeed, I 
> have a problem... The progress bar goes *nuts* during the prerender 
> radiosity passes :) But that seems to be the only problem.

[oops, accidentally sent before finishing]

My offer stands: email me your sources and I'll render your animation 
using a few 8-cores and a dozen dual-cores :)


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From: Nimish Ajmani
Subject: Re: House Project
Date: 5 Mar 2008 17:10:01
Message: <web.47cf19ebcfb38859835874580@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote:


> >> I can help you with slow renders, but unfortunately my system might
> >> cause problems with radiosity... Could be worth a try anyway. Email me
> >> the sources as they are now (unfinished), and I'll try a few dozen
> >> frames. If it ends up working correctly, I could do the full render
> >> when you're done modeling.
> >
> > I tried a radiosity scene to see if it worked correctly. And indeed, I
> > have a problem... The progress bar goes *nuts* during the prerender
> > radiosity passes :) But that seems to be the only problem.
>
> [oops, accidentally sent before finishing]
>
> My offer stands: email me your sources and I'll render your animation
> using a few 8-cores and a dozen dual-cores :)

Thank you very much for the offer, but I managed to tie some of my own computers
together, and, using school resources, got it to render a lot quicker.  I posted
the 20 second animation on youtube, at the folowing location:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PekTXAfhQY

I admit it fell victim to Youtube's compression system, but that animation shows
of my entire house, including a few unrealistic passing through walls and glass.

I managed to do a trick with frames so that the roof only apears after you
enter, and therefore could do a drop into a room.

I will be duplicating this message in the animation section as well, but though
I should include a copy in the thread of this project.

As always, comments are welcome and greately appreciated.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: House Project
Date: 6 Mar 2008 04:40:00
Message: <47cfbbf0$1@news.povray.org>
"Nimish Ajmani" <nomail@nomail> schreef in bericht 
news:web.47cf19ebcfb38859835874580@news.povray.org...
>
> I managed to do a trick with frames so that the roof only apears after you
> enter, and therefore could do a drop into a room.
>

What you can do is use interior_texture for your roof/ceiling. Use 
pigment{Clear} for the outside and the current ceiling texture inside.

Thomas


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