I certainly do like this image.
If you still want Io to orbit Jupiter, just rotate Jupiter around the 
viewing-axis (z-axis more or less) until they are aligned again :-)
However, that might introduce a strange effect.
I am not sure about the penknife. I think that needs further modelling, in 
the line of some of the other comments perhaps. It needs something dramatic, 
especially as it is in the foreground.

Thomas

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Kyle <hob### [at] gatenet> wrote:
> Bill:
>
> You've broken rules 1 through 6, and the subnote rule, to contribute an acceptable
submission to CGSphere!  :-p
>
> But, then again, so has almost everyone else.  ;-)

That's just what I thought; there's loads of planet-based images with a grid
a bit like this.

"But, but... he started it!" <points finger>

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Ben Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
> Hmm... maybe take that pen-knife, knock up a few more thousand of them,
> and have them suck up Jupiter's atmosphere?

Yes, I thought about that. Perhaps I should dispense with the CGSphere grid
and just do a 2001/2010 scene for my own benefit!

> It's hard not to say "Wow" as you witness the birth of a new Sun ;)

If you get the time before being clobbered by the blast... :)



Chris B wrote:
> My vote is to see a Hollywood atmospheric glow around the penknife too.

Good idea. I shall give that a go.

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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> I certainly do like this image.
> If you still want Io to orbit Jupiter, just rotate Jupiter around the
> viewing-axis (z-axis more or less) until they are aligned again :-)

Could do. That'll mean trial-and-error with some tiny tiny angles.

> I am not sure about the penknife. I think that needs further modelling, in
> the line of some of the other comments perhaps. It needs something dramatic,
> especially as it is in the foreground.

The problem is, as described, the penknife is exactly that: undramatic. I've
already exaggerated it by giving it a nonzero diffuse reflection! It's
supposed not to return anything, even radar, as I recall; you can only see
it by light occlusion. Perhaps I should fill it with stars or something.

Another idea I had was to use the crew section of the 'Discovery' as the
CGSphere, and have everything else arranged in the background. But that
might actually entail some effort! It'd be a good excuse for some greebling
though... hmmm...

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"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
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> But I'm not sure if I like it enough to submit it... anybody have any
> suggestions for making it a little more Wow?

   Nice one Bill. Not sure if it would be a 'Wow' factor or not, but, 
bump_maps on the planet/s?

    7.8 from me.  :o)

    ~Steve~


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"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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I like. Is the grid an image map?

> But I'm not sure if I like it enough to submit it... anybody have any
> suggestions for making it a little more Wow?

Fill it with stars (the monolith, that is)

For some reason, I've always imagined it shiny.

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> Fill it with stars (the monolith, that is)
> 
> For some reason, I've always imagined it shiny.

It's not, in 2010 they analyse it and they find it absorbs light 
perfectly or something like that.

But I'd fill the sky with stars, damnit, there's no atmosphere 
surrounding the camera to hide them...

Remember: "Oh my God!...  It's full of stars!"

Simon

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> But I'm not sure if I like it enough to submit it... anybody have any
> suggestions for making it a little more Wow?

Well, you already did all the hard work!  But if you want my opinion, in 
  odysee scene on which you have Io and atmosphere around it... well... 
  why not burn a probe into the atmosphere, descending toward the 
surface while doing it's analysis!

But definately, if you want to highlight the atmosphere further, burn 
something into it.

Simon

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"Simon" <sim### [at] gmailcom> wrote in message
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> > Fill it with stars (the monolith, that is)
> >
> > For some reason, I've always imagined it shiny.
>
> It's not, in 2010 they analyse it and they find it absorbs light
> perfectly or something like that.

Ah. Only read 2001.

> But I'd fill the sky with stars, damnit, there's no atmosphere
> surrounding the camera to hide them...
>
> Remember: "Oh my God!...  It's full of stars!"

I know. That's what I was refering to.

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>>> For some reason, I've always imagined it shiny.
>> It's not, in 2010 they analyse it and they find it absorbs light
>> perfectly or something like that.
> 
> Ah. Only read 2001.

Never read any, and I wonder if they were written by the same author (or 
even if the books are based on the movies or movies based on the books...)

In any case, for anybody that liked 2001, I recommend 2010, it is a 
totally different type of movie; a bit more action, suspense, much more 
dialogs so you get to know more stuff about what's going on.  They also 
explain what happened in 2001 as their mission is to "rescue" Hal.  At 
some point in the movie, one of the engineers even go into a 
mini-one-man-shuttle and tries to land on the monolith (which is large 
like several shopping centers)!

>> Remember: "Oh my God!...  It's full of stars!"
> 
> I know. That's what I was refering to.

Lol, it impressed me so much, this single sentence, that I think I 
almost tattooed it on myself! ;)

But you mean...  do you think Dave says that when he looks deep into the 
monolith?  I thought when he reached the monolith, his existence was 
somehow transcended and he was given the sight of the whole universe? 
That's how I explained the mega-psychedelic scenes at the end with 
colors melting vertically or horizontally toward Dave...  to me it was 
his passage into something else...

Simon

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