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From: Janet
Subject: Re: Chinese Dish with pigment_pattern
Date: 29 Oct 2006 21:00:01
Message: <web.45455c89167fefbdbf1a2d980@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> Cool application of this.
>
> This often is used to get transparency effects too.
Thanks Jim. Yes, PoseRay uses it for transparency. But then it dawned on me
how much more you could do with this feature. I just wanted to share since
maybe not everyone knows you can do this and I think its a wonderful
feature.


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From: Janet
Subject: Re: Chinese Dish with pigment_pattern
Date: 29 Oct 2006 21:05:02
Message: <web.45455ce5167fefbdbf1a2d980@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> cool!  the floor tiling texture also got my attention. :D
Thanks, the floor really came more to life when I added the HDRI.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Chinese Dish with pigment_pattern
Date: 30 Oct 2006 01:15:43
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Janet wrote:
> Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> 
>>Cool application of this.
>>
>>This often is used to get transparency effects too.
> 
> Thanks Jim. Yes, PoseRay uses it for transparency. 

Forgot about that.  For hair I guess?

But then it dawned on me
> how much more you could do with this feature. I just wanted to share since
> maybe not everyone knows you can do this and I think its a wonderful
> feature.
> 

I am forever trying to use it in conjunction with normals to get the 
high parts to appear shiny and the crevices matt, but that effect has 
yet to really pan out for me.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Chinese Dish with pigment_pattern
Date: 30 Oct 2006 04:08:13
Message: <4545c0fd$1@news.povray.org>
"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht 
news:4545988f$1@news.povray.org...
> Janet wrote:
>> Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
>>
>>>Cool application of this.
>>>
>>>This often is used to get transparency effects too.
>>
>> Thanks Jim. Yes, PoseRay uses it for transparency.
>
> Forgot about that.  For hair I guess?

Yes indeed. Never got around to explore other applications.
Thank you Janet!! Not only a beautiful plate (I love Chinese ware) but also 
an interesting other application to pursue!

>
> I am forever trying to use it in conjunction with normals to get the high 
> parts to appear shiny and the crevices matt, but that effect has yet to 
> really pan out for me.

Perhaps that thread in povray.newusers: Simulating cracks in surface using 
normals (by Toon) on 25-10-2006, will give you the answer? Chris B shows an 
interesting possibility...

Thomas
>


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From: Smws
Subject: Re: Chinese Dish with pigment_pattern
Date: 30 Oct 2006 10:25:01
Message: <web.45461941167fefbdda53d9e40@news.povray.org>
"Janet" <par### [at] attnet> wrote:
> This is a dish modelled in Blender. The pattern on it uses a pigment_pattern
> to add a gold texture to parts of the pattern. Its a very handy trick. This
> is the code for the pattern on the top of the dish.
> (...code...)
>
> I can post the grayscale image used if anyone wants to see it.
>
> Janet

Well, that's gorgeous.... very fine method to make image_maps more flexible.

Where in the world did you find that pattern, anyway? Did you make it?

-Stefan


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Chinese Dish with pigment_pattern
Date: 30 Oct 2006 13:06:16
Message: <45463f18$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:

> 
> Perhaps that thread in povray.newusers: Simulating cracks in surface using 
> normals (by Toon) on 25-10-2006, will give you the answer? Chris B shows an 
> interesting possibility...
> 
Thanks, I'll take a look.  It is usually that it works fine, 
technically, it is just that it doesn't add that much realism.  It is 
usually more a matter of putting slighly darker color in the low areas 
that adds more significantly to the effect, irregardless of whether I 
vary the finish or not.  I is really a matter, I think, that I have not 
portrayed a subject (like Janet has) where the effect makes a noticeable 
difference in the overall look of the picture.


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From: RusHHouR
Subject: Re: Chinese Dish with pigment_pattern
Date: 30 Oct 2006 14:45:01
Message: <web.45465512167fefbd47d3ae5e0@news.povray.org>
Wow, really cool patterns, both on dish and floor/table.
And equally cool of you to post the code! :)


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From: Janet
Subject: Re: Chinese Dish with pigment_pattern
Date: 30 Oct 2006 23:35:00
Message: <web.4546d222167fefbda4e61c6f0@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote:
> Forgot about that.  For hair I guess?
Yes, for hair and anything else that you want to be transparent/translucent.


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From: Janet
Subject: Re: Chinese Dish with pigment_pattern
Date: 30 Oct 2006 23:40:00
Message: <web.4546d320167fefbda4e61c6f0@news.povray.org>
"Smws" <smw### [at] poboxcom> wrote:
> Well, that's gorgeous.... very fine method to make image_maps more flexible.
>
> Where in the world did you find that pattern, anyway? Did you make it?
>
> -Stefan
Hi Stefan, I did not make it. I got it out of a book I bought the other day.
It is avaiable here-->
http://www.amazon.com/Chinese-Patterns-Agile-Rabbit-Editions/dp/9057680068
Its a great book if you like patterns.


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From: Janet
Subject: Re: Chinese Dish with pigment_pattern
Date: 30 Oct 2006 23:45:00
Message: <web.4546d43a167fefbda4e61c6f0@news.povray.org>
"RusHHouR" <gee### [at] mailnu> wrote:
> Wow, really cool patterns, both on dish and floor/table.
> And equally cool of you to post the code! :)
Thanks. When I first realized I could do this, I thought it was really cool.
So that's why I posted this, in case someone else thought so too. :)


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