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From: Mack Tuesday
Subject: Doodle (116KB)
Date: 7 Oct 2005 13:10:01
Message: <web.4346ab76e6623c90526d08610@news.povray.org>
A couple of friends and I are thinking about starting a web site.  I was
fiddling around and came up with this.


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From: Raf256
Subject: Re: Doodle (116KB)
Date: 8 Oct 2005 06:30:57
Message: <2njk13-dqj.ln1@raf256.com>
Mack Tuesday <web.4346ab76e6623c90526d08610@news.povray.org> Friday 07 of
October 2005 19:09

> coolmojo.PNG

please name files like: coolmojo.png

advanced operating systems, like linux, recognize upper/lower case, and
there is no program that opens .PNG (there are programs for .png .jpg and
so on, though)

-- 


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From: Rune
Subject: Re: Doodle (116KB)
Date: 8 Oct 2005 07:31:43
Message: <4347ae1f$1@news.povray.org>
Raf256 wrote:
> Mack Tuesday <web.4346ab76e6623c90526d08610@news.povray.org> Friday
> 07 of October 2005 19:09
>
>> coolmojo.PNG
>
> please name files like: coolmojo.png
>
> advanced operating systems, like linux, recognize upper/lower case,
> and there is no program that opens .PNG (there are programs for .png
> .jpg and so on, though)

So there really exists groups of file extensions with identical letters but 
different case, which are associated with completely different file types?

If not, isn't the failure to open a file if the extension is not lowercase 
just a stupid limitation of the file system or program rather than an 
"advanced feature"?

It's not that I don't recognize the usefulness of having a case-sensitive 
file system in general, but I can't understand why extensions aren't 
recognized regardless of case despite the case-sensitivity.

For the record, I've *never* heard before that file extensions should be 
lower case. It also doesn't seem to be mentioned at all at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_extension

Followup-to povray.off-topic

Rune
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From: Orchid XP v2
Subject: Re: Doodle (116KB)
Date: 8 Oct 2005 12:03:00
Message: <4347edb4$1@news.povray.org>
I'm liking that shade of green...


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From: povray
Subject: Re: Doodle (116KB)
Date: 9 Oct 2005 18:13:24
Message: <60ed.434994f9.a66e@localhost>
Raf256 wrote:
> Mack Tuesday <web.4346ab76e6623c90526d08610@news.povray.org> Friday 07 of
> October 2005 19:09
> 
> 
>>coolmojo.PNG
> 
> 
> please name files like: coolmojo.png
> 
> advanced operating systems, like linux, recognize upper/lower case, and
> there is no program that opens .PNG (there are programs for .png .jpg and
> so on, though)
> 

That's odd.  I'm in linux and saw it fine.  What newsreader are
you running?


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From: Larry Hudson
Subject: Re: Doodle (116KB)
Date: 9 Oct 2005 21:25:00
Message: <4349c2ec$1@news.povray.org>
Raf256 wrote:
> Mack Tuesday <web.4346ab76e6623c90526d08610@news.povray.org> Friday 07 of
> October 2005 19:09
> 
> 
>>coolmojo.PNG
> 
> 
> please name files like: coolmojo.png
> 
> advanced operating systems, like linux, recognize upper/lower case, and
> there is no program that opens .PNG (there are programs for .png .jpg and
> so on, though)
> 

Actuslly, Unlike Windows, Unix/Linux does NOT use the file "extension" 
to determine its type.  With these OSs it's merely a _human_ 
convenience/convention.

I was able to display this image (as .PNG) with several different 
graphics programs, including the Gimp.  Even Nautilus (the file browser) 
reports its type as a PNG image.  I even deleted the extension and also 
renamed the extension to .jpg and still had no problems either way.  And 
Nautilus still said it was a PNG image.  Of course, it was also 
displayed correctly in Thunderbird when reading the origninal post.

OTOH, of course you're right that case is significant in Linux filenames 
so coolmojo.PNG would be a different file from CoolMojo.PNG for example. 
  But there would still be no problem about their file types.

Now, I also think the "extension" *looks* nicer in lowercase -- but 
that's just personal opinion.   ;-)

      -=- Larry -=-


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Doodle (116KB)
Date: 9 Oct 2005 21:43:56
Message: <pan.2005.10.10.01.43.55.604644@nospam.com>
Worked fine here as-is.  Looks like you need a new graphics viewer, or
perhaps a better understanding of the OS/utilities you're using.

Viewed in pan, gqview, and gimp here, all on Linux.

Jim


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From: Mack Tuesday
Subject: Re: Doodle (116KB)
Date: 10 Oct 2005 14:10:00
Message: <web.434aadb6e7ffaa39526d08610@news.povray.org>
Raf256 <spa### [at] raf256cominvalid> wrote:
> Mack Tuesday <web.4346ab76e6623c90526d08610@news.povray.org> Friday 07 of
> October 2005 19:09
>
> > coolmojo.PNG
>
> please name files like: coolmojo.png
>
> advanced operating systems, like linux, recognize upper/lower case, and
> there is no program that opens .PNG (there are programs for .png .jpg and
> so on, though)
>
> --



So where did the upper case extension come from, anyway?  This is how my
post looks in the browser I'm using:

===
A couple of friends and I are thinking about starting a web site.  I was
fiddling around and came up with this.

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<image>
===

When I download the image, it comes in with a lower case extension.  This is
what I would expect because I never touched the filename between its
creation and its uploading.


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From: Florian Brucker
Subject: Re: Doodle (116KB)
Date: 10 Oct 2005 14:26:21
Message: <434ab24d$1@news.povray.org>
> So where did the upper case extension come from, anyway? 

It comes from the message itself (part of the MIME protocol):

   --------boundary00xxzz99pov77ccvv44
   Content-Type: image/x-png; name="coolmojo.PNG"
   Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
   Content-Disposition: inline; filename="coolmojo.PNG"


Guess we are deep into off-topic waters right now, follow up to 
off-topic set.

Florian


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