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I still feel you work astounding
I think you could be intereseted by a french comics serie : "Les Passagers
It relates through 5 volumes the adventures of a young lady in late 18th
century navy. It is very well documented with gorgeous and precise
drawings.
There is a "making of"
Unfortunately I didn't find any reference to a translation in english (it's
a shame!)
http://www.amazon.fr/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/490672/ref=br_bx_2_c_2_26/171-6458414-6527442
Marc
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"Tim McMurdo" <jod### [at] woh rrcom> wrote:
> This model is a test platform that I use for developing new methods,
> textures, etc. for the Niagara. I find that it is much faster to do my
> development on this limited platfom first and then transport the code into
> the larger Niagara files.
>
> Today's test is for a new plank macro using the isowood.inc files. I have
> mixed feelings about the oak texture of the wood. I read in all of the
> books about the gleaming white decks on naval sailing ships. Evidently they
> were scrubbed daily with holly stones to clean them and make them white.
> However, on the sailing ships I have actually visited, all the decks are
> weathered grey. If there are any knowledgeable sailors out there, I would
> love to know what color they should be. Do we just nolonger scrub decks
> with stones and leave them to weather? How light in color should the
> texture be?
>
> The loops of rope on the belaying pins are from a previous test, so please
> pay them no attention.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
A few of my recollections (from about ten years ago):
I don't really know anything about holly stones.
The wood decks of the ships that I spent time on were not new-wood color,
but some variant of bleached and weathered gray, though, a patch or
replaced plank did take some time to weather to the color of the rest. As
such I'd say the deck should take its color (and luminance) more from the
lighting than the material.
In port is probably the worst time to observe clean decks - there's just so
much coming and going. They really do look lighter with some scrubbing
after a few days at sea. It made it easier to track the engineer whenever
he came out of the engine room. :)
At times we bleached the decks with oxalic acid - this really brightened
them. I cannot say, however, how widespread this practice is/was.
Weathering is mostly a surface effect and the actual wood color could be
revealed if you went at it with a scraper.
Scrubbing definitely raised the grain some.
The seams were caulked with cotton or hemp which always retained some dirt.
Though I cannot recall any seams that were not finished off with some
synthetic sealant.
The pegs (or bungs covering the fasteners) should probably be colored the
same as the planks.
Scuffmarks or collected dirt around the gun carriage wheels. And soot
stains? I remember alot of black mess after firing and swabbing the guns
several times. Maybe not that much on second thought since this was
probably a neat and tight navy ship.
Also its probably not a good idea to paint the pin rail since you will
definitely get chafe marks.
Well, that's probably more than you wanted to know. Keep it up! I'm really
enjoying the progression on this project.
Abe
P.S. I've been meaning to mention it for some time: I feel that implementing
some sort of translucency effect on the sails would contribute enormously
to the feel of the model.
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I agree, in actuality, they were wooden pins or plugs. i will correct that.
I found a ship modelling site last night that described in detail how the
planks were really made.
Thomas...I have finished the riggin macro. If you are still interested, I
can email it to you.
Thanks,
Tim
> I think your planks should be more grey indeed.
> I agree with Chris about the peg pattern, and the seams. I think they should
> be less conspicuous, almost the same color as the planks.
>
> Great work. Keep on!
>
> Thomas
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Abe,
Thanks for your help on the deck...and more! I have been contemplating wear
marks on the deck for the carronades. They pivot on a pin and the trucks
would make a slight groove in the deck. The transparency of the sales is a
matter I have not thought of & i will definitely give it a try and report
back to you.
Thanks,
Tim
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Chris,
I seem to be getting the message that deck color can be all over the place
depending on the age, treatment etc...I will grey up the planks s little
bit, but tsill keep them fairly light in color. I will also give the peg
p[attern some more work.
Thanks,
Tim
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"Tim McMurdo" <jod### [at] wohrrcom> schreef in bericht
news:web.4236d887a9a49d956e93bf990@news.povray.org...
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> Thomas...I have finished the riggin macro. If you are still interested, I
> can email it to you.
>
Oh Yes, please! I am still interested.
As a matter of fact, I am refurbishing my VOC ship (after 5 years, it
needed to go to the docks), giving it a brand new hull and decks (mesh2, in
Silo), with more details and more accurate. Will take time...
So, a new rigging in also necessary.
Thomas
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"Marc Jacquier" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> schreef in bericht
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> news:web.4235d6d4243dbb34acb32c570@news.povray.org...
>
> I still feel you work astounding
>
> I think you could be intereseted by a french comics serie : "Les
Passagers
Oh yes! Those are excellent!
Thomas
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Tim McMurdo wrote:
Awesome. That is an insane project.
-Shay
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High!
Marc Jacquier wrote:
>I think you could be intereseted by a french comics serie : "Les
Passagers
>It relates through 5 volumes the adventures of a young lady in late 18th
>century navy. It is very well documented with gorgeous and precise
>drawings.
>
>
I remember, there was even a German video game adaption of it ("Reisende
im Wind" - "Voyagers in the wind") around 1988, meant to be the first
"interactive novel" on the Commodore 64... it was a complete failure
back then, not least because of its interactivity being next to none!
See you in Khyberspace!
Yadgar
Now playing: Orchestrion (Michael Rother)
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Shay wrote:
> Tim McMurdo wrote:
>
> Awesome. That is an insane project.
>
> -Shay
>
And, I'd like to add, contrary to me mostly just paying lip service to
the Khyberspace thing (with which I toy since 1993!), Tim really sticks
to it!
See you in Khyberspace!
Yadgar
Now playing: Horizon (Jon and Vangelis)
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