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From: Mike Horvath
Subject: Re: "The Expanse" Fanart, WIP - Ship passing a ring gate into theringspace
Date: 27 Jan 2021 09:37:03
Message: <60117a8f$1@news.povray.org>
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On 1/27/2021 2:42 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Op 27/01/2021 om 00:48 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
>> In "The Expanse" an alien race had set up a network of gates/wormholes
>> that link 1.300 stellar system through a hub which likely is an
>> extrauniversal bubble of space. Later during the unfolding story,
>> humans gained access to this network.
>>
>> This scene shows a ship after passing a ring gate, entering the ring
>> space.
>>
>
> So.... what is the light source in ring space? ;-)
>
I wondered that too. When I read the books I imagined that area of space
being dark too. I don't recall there being a glowing nebula.
Mike
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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: "The Expanse" Fanart, WIP - Ship passing a ring gate intotheringspace
Date: 27 Jan 2021 11:29:04
Message: <601194d0@news.povray.org>
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Le 2021-01-27 à 09:37, Mike Horvath a écrit :
> On 1/27/2021 2:42 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Op 27/01/2021 om 00:48 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
>>> In "The Expanse" an alien race had set up a network of
>>> gates/wormholes that link 1.300 stellar system through a hub which
>>> likely is an extrauniversal bubble of space. Later during the
>>> unfolding story, humans gained access to this network.
>>>
>>> This scene shows a ship after passing a ring gate, entering the ring
>>> space.
>>>
>>
>> So.... what is the light source in ring space? ;-)
>>
>
>
> I wondered that too. When I read the books I imagined that area of space
> being dark too. I don't recall there being a glowing nebula.
>
>
> Mike
Maybe it's the background radiation, just like our microwave background,
but still in the visible range.
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From: Hj Malthaner
Subject: Re: "The Expanse" Fanart, WIP - Ship passing a ring gate intotheringspace
Date: 27 Jan 2021 15:07:43
Message: <6011c80f@news.povray.org>
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On 1/27/21 3:37 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
> On 1/27/2021 2:42 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Op 27/01/2021 om 00:48 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
>>> This scene shows a ship after passing a ring gate, entering the ring
>>> space.
>>
>> So.... what is the light source in ring space? ;-)
>
> I wondered that too. When I read the books I imagined that area of space
> being dark too. I don't recall there being a glowing nebula.
In the show the "walls" of the ring zone glow in blue and yellow and
illuminate the ships inside.
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/expanse/images/f/f2/S04e01medina26m07s.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20191219225152
But I added an extra light source to give the ship more contrast.
Attached is a new version with only diffuse light from the walls.
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: "The Expanse" Fanart, WIP - Ship passing a ring gateintotheringspace
Date: 28 Jan 2021 02:45:02
Message: <60126b7e$1@news.povray.org>
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Op 27/01/2021 om 21:07 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
> On 1/27/21 3:37 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
>> On 1/27/2021 2:42 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> Op 27/01/2021 om 00:48 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
>
>>>> This scene shows a ship after passing a ring gate, entering the ring
>>>> space.
>>>
>>> So.... what is the light source in ring space? ;-)
>>
>> I wondered that too. When I read the books I imagined that area of
>> space being dark too. I don't recall there being a glowing nebula.
>
> In the show the "walls" of the ring zone glow in blue and yellow and
> illuminate the ships inside.
>
>
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/expanse/images/f/f2/S04e01medina26m07s.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20191219225152
>
>
> But I added an extra light source to give the ship more contrast.
> Attached is a new version with only diffuse light from the walls.
>
>
Aaaah! Much better! Like in the example, you can vary the diffused light
over ring space (I would suggest a hdri map *) and add a few lights
on/in the ship itself.
* easy to make: just draw an appropriate image map and save it in hdr
format. There are several paint or converting programs that can do that.
--
Thomas
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From: Alain Martel
Subject: Re: "The Expanse" Fanart, WIP - Ship passing a ringgateintotheringspace
Date: 28 Jan 2021 12:07:38
Message: <6012ef5a$1@news.povray.org>
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Le 2021-01-28 à 02:45, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
> Op 27/01/2021 om 21:07 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
>> On 1/27/21 3:37 PM, Mike Horvath wrote:
>>> On 1/27/2021 2:42 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>>> Op 27/01/2021 om 00:48 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
>>
>>>>> This scene shows a ship after passing a ring gate, entering the
>>>>> ring space.
>>>>
>>>> So.... what is the light source in ring space? ;-)
>>>
>>> I wondered that too. When I read the books I imagined that area of
>>> space being dark too. I don't recall there being a glowing nebula.
>>
>> In the show the "walls" of the ring zone glow in blue and yellow and
>> illuminate the ships inside.
>>
>>
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/expanse/images/f/f2/S04e01medina26m07s.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20191219225152
>>
>>
>> But I added an extra light source to give the ship more contrast.
>> Attached is a new version with only diffuse light from the walls.
>>
>>
>
> Aaaah! Much better! Like in the example, you can vary the diffused light
> over ring space (I would suggest a hdri map *) and add a few lights
> on/in the ship itself.
>
> * easy to make: just draw an appropriate image map and save it in hdr
> format. There are several paint or converting programs that can do that.
>
Or make one in POV-Ray and save directly as .HDR or .EXR.
In this case, a cylindrical mapping looks like it's the way to go. Just
map on a vertical cylinder cantered around the Y axis, then, rotate it
as needed.
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From: Hj Malthaner
Subject: Re: "The Expanse" Fanart, WIP - Ship passing a ring gateintotheringspace
Date: 30 Jan 2021 20:31:47
Message: <60160883@news.povray.org>
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On 1/27/21 9:07 PM, Hj. Malthaner wrote:
> But I added an extra light source to give the ship more contrast.
> Attached is a new version with only diffuse light from the walls.
Updates, updates ... camera position, different light setup. I like this
one quite a bit better now.
--
Some of my PovRay works:
https://www.deviantart.com/antarasol/gallery/42758766/3D
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From: William F Pokorny
Subject: Re: "The Expanse" Fanart, WIP - Ship passing a ringgateintotheringspace
Date: 30 Jan 2021 23:59:01
Message: <60163915$1@news.povray.org>
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On 1/30/21 8:31 PM, Hj. Malthaner wrote:
> On 1/27/21 9:07 PM, Hj. Malthaner wrote:
>
>> But I added an extra light source to give the ship more contrast.
>> Attached is a new version with only diffuse light from the walls.
>
> Updates, updates ... camera position, different light setup. I like this
> one quite a bit better now.
>
>
Agree, this one my favorite of those posted.
Is the blue inside the ring intended or due pattern/media clipping of
some sort?
Season 5 finale this coming Wednesday! :-)
Bill P.
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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: "The Expanse" Fanart, WIP - Ship passing a ringgateintotheringspace
Date: 31 Jan 2021 02:23:28
Message: <60165af0$1@news.povray.org>
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Op 31/01/2021 om 02:31 schreef Hj. Malthaner:
> On 1/27/21 9:07 PM, Hj. Malthaner wrote:
>
>> But I added an extra light source to give the ship more contrast.
>> Attached is a new version with only diffuse light from the walls.
>
> Updates, updates ... camera position, different light setup. I like this
> one quite a bit better now.
>
>
Approaching perfection. ;-)
--
Thomas
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From: Hj Malthaner
Subject: Re: "The Expanse" Fanart, WIP - Ship passing aringgateintotheringspace
Date: 1 Feb 2021 22:53:29
Message: <6018ccb9$1@news.povray.org>
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On 1/31/21 5:59 AM, William F Pokorny wrote:
> On 1/30/21 8:31 PM, Hj. Malthaner wrote:
>> Updates, updates ... camera position, different light setup. I like
>> this one quite a bit better now.
>
> Agree, this one my favorite of those posted.
>
> Is the blue inside the ring intended or due pattern/media clipping of
> some sort?
It's intentional, a protomolecule torus that powers and controls the thing.
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From: Hj Malthaner
Subject: Re: "The Expanse" Fanart, WIP - Ship passing aringgateintotheringspace
Date: 1 Feb 2021 22:54:26
Message: <6018ccf2$1@news.povray.org>
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On 1/28/21 6:07 PM, Alain Martel wrote:
> Le 2021-01-28 à 02:45, Thomas de Groot a écrit :
>> Aaaah! Much better! Like in the example, you can vary the diffused
>> light over ring space (I would suggest a hdri map *) and add a few
>> lights on/in the ship itself.
>>
>> * easy to make: just draw an appropriate image map and save it in hdr
>> format. There are several paint or converting programs that can do that.
>>
> Or make one in POV-Ray and save directly as .HDR or .EXR.
>
> In this case, a cylindrical mapping looks like it's the way to go. Just
> map on a vertical cylinder cantered around the Y axis, then, rotate it
> as needed.
A feature that I have not tried yet. Seems to be time to do!
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