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On 07/20/2013 12:45 PM, Alain wrote:
>> On 07/02/2013 08:51 AM, James Holsenback wrote:
>>> On 07/02/2013 06:52 AM, Paolo Gibellini wrote:
>>>> >James Holsenback on date 01/07/2013 20.33 wrote:
>>>>> I'm testing a user contributed fix related to
>>>>> http://bugs.povray.org/task/287 and thought the image was cool
>>>>> enough to
>>>>> share. It's a work in progress so I'm not entirely sure where it will
>>>>> end up.
>>>> Surely the jar is very good, it seems /real/ (and thanks to the +C
>>>> option!).
>>>> Paolo
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Well I can't take credit for the jar:
>>>
http://www.blender-models.com/model-downloads/objects/id/decorative-oct-glass-jar-ver-3/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I think I'm going to try to separate the lid from the rest of the jar,
>>> and place it on the ground plane, with a few other objects
>>
>> well i managed to get the lid separated from the jar ... and the
>> additional objects started out as jelly beans, but traditional jb colors
>> just didn't seem to go with the rest of the objects, i went to pastels
>> colors. now i think they look like jordan almonds. i like the
>> subsurface, so i think i'll probably end up making the candies more
>> almond shaped.
>
> I'd like to see the gelly beans version.
>
> A question:
> Why does the grout between the tiles protude above them?
the grout a normal (tiling pattern slope map) ... this version used
radiosity and i'm considering using a fill light instead. the shadows
look kind of flat-ish around some of the candies as well. maybe that's
contributing to what you're seeing.
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On 07/20/2013 01:18 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 20.07.2013 14:47, schrieb James Holsenback:
>
>> well i managed to get the lid separated from the jar ... and the
>> additional objects started out as jelly beans, but traditional jb colors
>> just didn't seem to go with the rest of the objects, i went to pastels
>> colors. now i think they look like jordan almonds. i like the
>> subsurface, so i think i'll probably end up making the candies more
>> almond shaped.
>
> Nice one; but it looks quite artificially placed; maybe move the doily a
> deal to the top left, to make it look more like the jar had toppled over?
lol ... yes my in-house critic mentioned that as well
>
> And then, of course, the candies call for the Bullet Physics Playground...
>
yes that's what i used and i wasn't 100% happy. i was hasty with how
they were clustered together, before dropping them. i also need to come
up with a better color distribution method ... currently it's a pretty
basic odd/even
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On 07/20/2013 01:31 PM, James Holsenback wrote:
> the grout a normal (tiling pattern slope map) ... this version used
> radiosity and i'm considering using a fill light instead. the shadows
> look kind of flat-ish around some of the candies as well. maybe that's
> contributing to what you're seeing.
doh ... think i found the problem. i used rad_def.inc:
Rad_Settings(Radiosity_Normal, off, off)
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On 07/20/2013 12:45 PM, Alain wrote:
> I'd like to see the gelly beans version.
If I decide to go with jelly beans, I think the jar needs to be clear.
It's a toggle, so I can go back to jordan almonds easy enough. I messed
with the physics a bit and found that math.random (6) returns an integer
from 1 to 6 which helped distribute the colors better. I'm not all that
crazy about the pattern, what I think I should really do is fill a
container with the beans and tip it over.
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> what I think I should really do is fill a
> container with the beans and tip it over.
IIRC, for the pills pot image
(http://www.ignorancia.org/uploads/images/take-your-meds/wips/prescription-05.jpg)
my solution was to let the pills fall just in front of the pot, which
was already tipped over and empty: a few pills entered into the pot, so
it ended looking as if it was tipped over while filled with pills.
--
Jaime
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On 07/22/2013 05:55 PM, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>> what I think I should really do is fill a
>> container with the beans and tip it over.
>
> IIRC, for the pills pot image
> (http://www.ignorancia.org/uploads/images/take-your-meds/wips/prescription-05.jpg)
> my solution was to let the pills fall just in front of the pot, which
> was already tipped over and empty: a few pills entered into the pot, so
> it ended looking as if it was tipped over while filled with pills.
>
> --
> Jaime
>
>
Good idea ... I like this distribution much better! I'm not sure what
happened to the sslt on a couple of the candies. Maybe I should not have
done a separate photon run, then picked up he sslt later.
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> On 07/22/2013 05:55 PM, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>>> what I think I should really do is fill a
>>> container with the beans and tip it over.
>>
>> IIRC, for the pills pot image
>> (http://www.ignorancia.org/uploads/images/take-your-meds/wips/prescription-05.jpg)
>>
>> my solution was to let the pills fall just in front of the pot, which
>> was already tipped over and empty: a few pills entered into the pot, so
>> it ended looking as if it was tipped over while filled with pills.
>>
>> --
>> Jaime
>>
>>
> Good idea ... I like this distribution much better! I'm not sure what
> happened to the sslt on a couple of the candies. Maybe I should not have
> done a separate photon run, then picked up he sslt later.
Nice.
To enhence the impression that the jar was toppled over, I'd place the
lid upside down and relocate it in front of the jar's oppening.
It still look as if the grout is casting shadows on the tiles. Have you
tried negating your bormals or bump papping?
Alain
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On 07/24/2013 08:15 PM, Alain wrote:
>> On 07/22/2013 05:55 PM, Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
>>>> what I think I should really do is fill a
>>>> container with the beans and tip it over.
>>>
>>> IIRC, for the pills pot image
>>> (http://www.ignorancia.org/uploads/images/take-your-meds/wips/prescription-05.jpg)
>>>
>>>
>>> my solution was to let the pills fall just in front of the pot, which
>>> was already tipped over and empty: a few pills entered into the pot, so
>>> it ended looking as if it was tipped over while filled with pills.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jaime
>>>
>>>
>> Good idea ... I like this distribution much better! I'm not sure what
>> happened to the sslt on a couple of the candies. Maybe I should not have
>> done a separate photon run, then picked up he sslt later.
>
> Nice.
>
> To enhence the impression that the jar was toppled over, I'd place the
> lid upside down and relocate it in front of the jar's oppening.
Yep ... I was considering that, but have resisted since I like the
detail on the top of the lid. Maybe photons will show some of that on
the ground plane ... OK you convinced me!
>
> It still look as if the grout is casting shadows on the tiles. Have you
> tried negating your bormals or bump papping?
OK /now/ I get what you were talking about. I think it's a color_map
issue. I /was/ trying to do some transition shading. I'll have to double
my settings.
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On 07/24/2013 08:15 PM, Alain wrote:
> To enhence the impression that the jar was toppled over, I'd place the
> lid upside down and relocate it in front of the jar's oppening.
Thanks for the ideas etc ... I think I'm getting close
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On 26-7-2013 13:12, James Holsenback wrote:
> Thanks for the ideas etc ... I think I'm getting close
>
Absolutely.
Thomas
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