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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Satrap in all his glory
Date: 1 Jan 2013 03:12:07
Message: <50e29a57$1@news.povray.org>
On 31-12-2012 22:33, MichaelJF wrote:
> The cloth room, I suspect. The matching of a clothing is ever a kind of
> animation there.

Indeed yes.

> The christmas gift I gave myself was Poser 2012 Professionial,
> but I still have to investigate it.

It is a move I am considering, mostly for its multi thread ability.

> The head room seems to be the same mess as
> with Poser 8. Even if you have pictures of a portrait and of a profile (which is
> a very rare case with net-images) of a person, you cannot really craft a face
> from it. If you hit the button to apply the images you have cautiously designed
> using the two small input areas for pictures, you yield only very disturbed
> faces. The face room is a mess.

I agree. I never have used it with portraits but only for some morphing 
which works pretty well if one is careful because holes can appear 
between the head and the neck; and the textures in the Face Room are 
below average. So yes, it is the worse feature of the package indeed.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: The Satrap in all his glory
Date: 1 Jan 2013 06:13:47
Message: <50e2c4eb$1@news.povray.org>
On 01/01/2013 8:12 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> The christmas gift I gave myself was Poser 2012 Professionial,
>> but I still have to investigate it.
>
> It is a move I am considering, mostly for its multi thread ability.

Better check that out, I have Pro 2010 and the multi threading is only 
for rendering.
Although it is a big improvement on Poser 8 or was it 9?
Libraries load faster as do scenes, saving is faster too.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Satrap in all his glory
Date: 1 Jan 2013 06:58:18
Message: <50e2cf5a$1@news.povray.org>
On 1-1-2013 12:13, Stephen wrote:
> On 01/01/2013 8:12 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>> The christmas gift I gave myself was Poser 2012 Professionial,
>>> but I still have to investigate it.
>>
>> It is a move I am considering, mostly for its multi thread ability.
>
> Better check that out, I have Pro 2010 and the multi threading is only
> for rendering.
> Although it is a big improvement on Poser 8 or was it 9?
> Libraries load faster as do scenes, saving is faster too.
>

Wasn't there also multithreading for the Cloth Room?

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: The Satrap in all his glory
Date: 1 Jan 2013 12:19:42
Message: <50e31aae$1@news.povray.org>
On 01/01/2013 11:58 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
> Wasn't there also multithreading for the Cloth Room?


feature will attempt to parallelize (is that even a word in English?) 
the computations across multiple threads during bending, this will 
produce faster bending by better utilizing multi-threads and multi-core 


I did not notice any speed difference in the Cloth Room. Both Win Task 
Manager and Process Explorer showed about 17% CPU usage when calculating 
a simulation and they took the same time.

Maybe they have updated it for 2012.


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     Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Satrap in all his glory
Date: 2 Jan 2013 03:26:12
Message: <50e3ef24$1@news.povray.org>
On 1-1-2013 18:19, Stephen wrote:
> On 01/01/2013 11:58 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>>
>> Wasn't there also multithreading for the Cloth Room?
>

> feature will attempt to parallelize (is that even a word in English?)
> the computations across multiple threads during bending, this will
> produce faster bending by better utilizing multi-threads and multi-core


Yeah, I saw that too. I wonder what that really means. I suppose 
/bending/ refers to pose changes from frame to frame.
Somehow I was left with the idea that multi-threading was extended to 
the Cloth Room.

>
> I did not notice any speed difference in the Cloth Room. Both Win Task
> Manager and Process Explorer showed about 17% CPU usage when calculating
> a simulation and they took the same time.

Hmm. Seems like business as usual to me. A shame that they discarded the 
Poser forums. Those were excellent means to get info and help.

>
> Maybe they have updated it for 2012.

Not in that respect, according to the Feature Comparison Chart it seems.

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: The Satrap in all his glory
Date: 2 Jan 2013 08:35:01
Message: <web.50e437467643f968f2eb76540@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 1-1-2013 18:19, Stephen wrote:
> > On 01/01/2013 11:58 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> >>
> >> Wasn't there also multithreading for the Cloth Room?
> >

> > feature will attempt to parallelize (is that even a word in English?)
> > the computations across multiple threads during bending, this will
> > produce faster bending by better utilizing multi-threads and multi-core

>
> Yeah, I saw that too. I wonder what that really means. I suppose
> /bending/ refers to pose changes from frame to frame.

My reading of the manual is that it for the Inverse Kinetics and mesh
deformation. Nothing to do with the clothes room.

> Somehow I was left with the idea that multi-threading was extended to
> the Cloth Room.
>

I have not read anything about that.

> >
> > I did not notice any speed difference in the Cloth Room. Both Win Task
> > Manager and Process Explorer showed about 17% CPU usage when calculating
> > a simulation and they took the same time.
>
> Hmm. Seems like business as usual to me. A shame that they discarded the
> Poser forums. Those were excellent means to get info and help.
>

Having said that. Poser Pro 2010 is much faster than Poser 8 and the collision
offset and depth work better.

> >
> > Maybe they have updated it for 2012.
>
> Not in that respect, according to the Feature Comparison Chart it seems.
>

Shame. :-(


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Satrap in all his glory
Date: 2 Jan 2013 10:43:19
Message: <50e45597$1@news.povray.org>
On 2-1-2013 14:33, Stephen wrote:
> My reading of the manual is that it for the Inverse Kinetics and mesh
> deformation. Nothing to do with the clothes room.
>
>> Somehow I was left with the idea that multi-threading was extended to
>> the Cloth Room.
>>
>
> I have not read anything about that.

I must have dreamed it... ;-)

> Having said that. Poser Pro 2010 is much faster than Poser 8 and the collision
> offset and depth work better.

Yes, and at least there is x64 support. I shall consider...

Thomas


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From: Sven Littkowski
Subject: Re: The Satrap in all his glory
Date: 20 Feb 2013 20:10:01
Message: <web.512573897643f968e80af9310@news.povray.org>
Very nice.

And next are the people of the ancient Roman world with their thousands of
heritages, professions and costumes..?   ;-)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: The Satrap in all his glory
Date: 21 Feb 2013 03:48:48
Message: <5125df70@news.povray.org>
On 21-2-2013 2:08, Sven Littkowski wrote:
> Very nice.
>
> And next are the people of the ancient Roman world with their thousands of
> heritages, professions and costumes..?   ;-)

Well, maybe you missed earlier views of Gancaloon-related scenes and 
their explanations, but in /my/ world there are no Romans to speak of. 
They just did not emerge as a leading power.

Thomas


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