Thomas de Groot <tenDOTlnDOTretniATtoorgedDOTt> wrote:
> The next stage in the development.
>
> Thomas

This is really starting to come together nicely Thomas, I love the addition of
the village and all the trees scattered in there :)

To my eye, the background mountains could use a big fog boost for added
atmospheric perspective (maybe by moving them way back and scaling larger?). I
think that would really help to sell the size and distance. And the same, to a
lesser degree, for the midground mountain and forest across the water, so the
shadows are more desaturated (and the foreground more so by comparison). Some
ground fog might be nice too, especially over the water.

I'm curious what you're using to light this scene. Are you using radiosity, or
just ambient sky_sphere/light with straight ray-tracing?

Cheers,
Rob

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On 21-10-2011 1:20, Robert McGregor wrote:
> This is really starting to come together nicely Thomas, I love the addition of
> the village and all the trees scattered in there :)

Thank you indeed, Robert! I shall probably add a second type hut in the 
next wip just to diversify a bit, and maybe some screens. Ideas still 
fluctuating.

>
> To my eye, the background mountains could use a big fog boost for added
> atmospheric perspective (maybe by moving them way back and scaling larger?). I
> think that would really help to sell the size and distance. And the same, to a
> lesser degree, for the midground mountain and forest across the water, so the
> shadows are more desaturated (and the foreground more so by comparison). Some
> ground fog might be nice too, especially over the water.

Except for the mountains to the far right/back, this is just one 
height_field so moving/scaling is not practical in this case. At this 
moment there is a (ground) fog present for the distance, but rather 
thin, and it can certainly be improved, also with an additional one 
close to the water. Another idea I want to pursue is a thin cloud 
halfway the background mountains.

>
> I'm curious what you're using to light this scene. Are you using radiosity, or
> just ambient sky_sphere/light with straight ray-tracing?

Very straightforward in fact, a sphere as sky_sphere (with emission 1 
and diffuse 0), one light, and using radiosity of course:

#include "CIE.inc"
#declare SunColor     = Blackbody(6500)*2;
#declare SunPosition  = <0, 0, -2>*10e4;
#declare SunDis       = vlength(SunPosition)*2/215;
#declare Sun_alt      = 50;
#declare Sun_azm      = -110;

#if (Area)
   light_source {
     <0, 0, 0>
     color SunColor
     area_light
     SunDis*x, SunDis*z,
     4, 4
     adaptive 1
     area_illumination on
     jitter
     circular
     orient
     translate SunPosition
     rotate Sun_alt*x
     rotate Sun_azm*y
     parallel
     point_at <0, 0, 0>
   }
#else
   light_source {
     <0, 0, 0>
     color rgb SunColor
     translate SunPosition
     rotate Sun_alt*x
     rotate Sun_azm*y
     parallel
     point_at <0, 0, 0>
   }
#end


Thomas

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On 21-10-2011 9:08, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Except for the mountains to the far right/back,

this should of course be far left/back :-)

Thomas

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Thomas de Groot wrote:

> Except for the mountains to the far right/back, this is just one 
> height_field so moving/scaling is not practical in this case. 

possibly you could fake it by adding a tilted second fog layer
that is below ground in the foreground but covers the mountains.

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On 21-10-2011 9:36, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>> Except for the mountains to the far right/back, this is just one
>> height_field so moving/scaling is not practical in this case.
>
> possibly you could fake it by adding a tilted second fog layer
> that is below ground in the foreground but covers the mountains.

That's an idea indeed. Other possibility is cutting the fog off with a 
vertical plane. I have done that, in particular for my image In the 
Ruins (the latest version, after the TC-RTC).

Thomas

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On 21-10-2011 1:20, Robert McGregor wrote:
> To my eye, the background mountains could use a big fog boost for added
> atmospheric perspective (maybe by moving them way back and scaling larger?). I
> think that would really help to sell the size and distance. And the same, to a
> lesser degree, for the midground mountain and forest across the water, so the
> shadows are more desaturated (and the foreground more so by comparison). Some
> ground fog might be nice too, especially over the water.

Like this, I suppose? :-)

Thomas

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Thomas de Groot <tenDOTlnDOTretniATtoorgedDOTt> wrote:
> On 21-10-2011 1:20, Robert McGregor wrote:
> > To my eye, the background mountains could use a big fog boost for added
> > atmospheric perspective (maybe by moving them way back and scaling larger?). I
> > think that would really help to sell the size and distance. And the same, to a
> > lesser degree, for the midground mountain and forest across the water, so the
> > shadows are more desaturated (and the foreground more so by comparison). Some
> > ground fog might be nice too, especially over the water.
>
> Like this, I suppose? :-)
>
> Thomas

Yes, that's it exactly! So much more epic (and visually believable) with the
"big" atmosphere. Beautiful :)

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On 26-10-2011 4:21, Robert McGregor wrote:
> Yes, that's it exactly! So much more epic (and visually believable) with the
> "big" atmosphere. Beautiful :)
>

Thanks! I agree :-)

Thomas

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