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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 26 Apr 2011 04:22:17
Message: <4db680b9$1@news.povray.org>
"waggy" <hon### [at] handbasketorg> schreef in bericht 
news:web.4db673a39fd34d3e9726a3c10@news.povray.org...
>> > But with that new female character holding the povlogo
>
> Can we please stay out of the uncanny valley?
>
> Especially the stereotypically misogynist box canyon of female 
> impersonators.
>

I think Stephen has not had enough time yet to work on the figure *out of 
the box*. Wait and see :-)

Thomas


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 26 Apr 2011 04:27:37
Message: <4db681f9$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/04/2011 8:26 AM, waggy wrote:
> Especially the stereotypically misogynist box canyon of female impersonators.

Hmm!

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 26 Apr 2011 04:33:16
Message: <4db6834c$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/04/2011 9:21 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> I think Stephen has not had enough time yet to work on the figure *out of
> the box*. Wait and see:-)

As you know it can be time consuming. So until I get the "go ahead" and 
some more requirements, I'll not go overboard with it.

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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 26 Apr 2011 05:22:54
Message: <4db68eee@news.povray.org>
On 26/04/2011 9:15 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Always difficult to catch those rogues...;-)

Any chance of making them white doves?

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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 26 Apr 2011 05:26:45
Message: <4db68fd5@news.povray.org>
On 26/04/2011 8:06 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> "Stephen"<mcavoys_at@aoldotcom>  schreef in bericht
> news:4db540ce@news.povray.org...
>> I think that, that position it would be hardly noticeable. Too small and
>> too dark. I was having trouble putting this model in the shade due to
>> using radiosity and no ambient. But then maybe subtlety is the way to go.
>
> Yes, I think you are right. The scale of the architecture fools my eyes...
>

It is often a surprise when you realise that your "minds eye" does not 
reflect reality.

> Your model is going to be alright in this scene!~
>

We will see. Are you going to make a human figure?


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     Stephen


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 26 Apr 2011 05:36:11
Message: <4db6920b$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/26/2011 04:22 AM, Stephen wrote:
> On 25/04/2011 10:57 PM, Jim Holsenback wrote:
>> Awesome mate! I can't wait to fit this into the scene.
>
> If you like it, it might be better if I gave you the OBJ file so that
> you could subdivide the dress if needed. Also I think that I overdid the
> wind (she looks as if she is wearing a bustle) so I will redo it.
> Do you want any particular facial expression?
> When you have decided on the position of the model in the scene I could
> make her look at a POI. (?)

They only thing that stuck out to me was the size of the orb/sphere ... 
as long as I'd be able to find/play with that mesh by itself 
(scale/finish/transform) I'll leave the fine details up to you ... maybe 
the obj file might be better format

>
>> I've made some
>> strides with the lighting and radiosity ... LOL I just /might/ be able
>> to dial that in myself ;-) ...
>
> I found out that you can't use a default texture with an ambient of 1 in
> the scene. It took me ages to find out what was wrong with it.
>
>> I just finished what looks like the last
>> of the positional fine tuning, but I looks like I'm in for some long
>> render times from now, so hang tough and I'll do my best.
>
> As long as it's done before the release. ;-)
>

Yep that's what I'm shooting for


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 26 Apr 2011 05:38:37
Message: <4db6929d$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/26/2011 04:26 AM, waggy wrote:
>>> But with that new female character holding the povlogo
>
> Can we please stay out of the uncanny valley?
>
> Especially the stereotypically misogynist box canyon of female impersonators.
>

Ooooookaaayyyyy?!?


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 26 Apr 2011 05:41:45
Message: <4db69359$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/26/2011 05:33 AM, Stephen wrote:
> On 26/04/2011 9:21 AM, Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> I think Stephen has not had enough time yet to work on the figure *out of
>> the box*. Wait and see:-)
>
> As you know it can be time consuming. So until I get the "go ahead" and
> some more requirements, I'll not go overboard with it.
>

I'd already downloaded 1st version ... let give that a test drive and 
I'll give you any feedback that I have (if any) that way I'm not having 
to ask for changes later ;-)


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 26 Apr 2011 05:42:43
Message: <4db69393$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/26/2011 05:27 AM, Stephen wrote:
> On 26/04/2011 8:26 AM, waggy wrote:
>> Especially the stereotypically misogynist box canyon of female
>> impersonators.
>
> Hmm!
>

lol ... I guess I'm not the only one trying to wrap my head around that one


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 26 Apr 2011 07:00:43
Message: <4db6a5db@news.povray.org>
On 04/25/2011 04:29 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 25/04/2011 7:51 PM, Samuel Benge wrote:
>> But with that new female character holding the povlogo
>
> I've uploaded it to p.b.Misc (5 Meg)
> New model with Orb if wanted.
>
>

Hmmm .. looks like I got a different version that what's in this image, 
but no matter as long as the model is left a <0,0,0> I can position. I 
might be able to overcome the need for more subdivision with a 
light_group on the model ... I like the idea of an orb rather than the 
logo object. I might leave the orb a simple reflective sphere, but maybe 

generally speaking I'm happy with what you've got so far ... maybe tad 
smaller with the orb, but that can be easily tweaked on my end ... and 
on 2nd thought maybe the obj->poseray->povray version would be better 
for me ... I'd like to leave the artist aspects up to you


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