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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 21 Apr 2011 17:11:27
Message: <4db09d7f$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/21/2011 05:29 PM, Samuel Benge wrote:
> "Samuel Benge"<stb### [at] hotmailcom>  wrote:
>> Jim Holsenback<jho### [at] povrayorg>  wrote:
>>> On 04/20/2011 02:57 PM, stbenge wrote:
>>>> OK. I might start off making only a basic bladed plant.
>>>
>>> LOL maybe it should be trees ...
>>
>> OK... trees are not my strong suit, but I did manage to come up with the
>> attached this morning. As you can see, the leaves are too dense near the center
>> and not numerous enough near the tops of the branches. But if the tree's total
>> contribution to the scene is miniscule, then it might not matter much.
>>
>> The backside illumination and importance sampling are working well though.
>
> Here's the new update... they look more natural now. You just supply the macro
> with two parameters and it will grow a tree out of the flower pot you provided.
> The file is over at p.t.scene-files.
>
> ~Sam
  Not too shabby! I on the other hand am still tinkering with the 
staircase ... a lot of pieces that I've been transforming around in 
different configurations, but nothing worth writing home about yet. I 
think I'll give the trees a try maybe it's just the diversion I need ... 
Cool!


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 21 Apr 2011 18:10:01
Message: <web.4db0aafe9fd34d3e6109b4920@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback <jho### [at] povrayorg> wrote:
> On 04/21/2011 05:29 PM, Samuel Benge wrote:
> > "Samuel Benge"<stb### [at] hotmailcom>  wrote:
> >> Jim Holsenback<jho### [at] povrayorg>  wrote:
> >>> On 04/20/2011 02:57 PM, stbenge wrote:
> >>>> OK. I might start off making only a basic bladed plant.
> >>>
> >>> LOL maybe it should be trees ...
> >>
> >> OK... trees are not my strong suit, but I did manage to come up with the
> >> attached this morning. As you can see, the leaves are too dense near the center
> >> and not numerous enough near the tops of the branches. But if the tree's total
> >> contribution to the scene is miniscule, then it might not matter much.
> >>
> >> The backside illumination and importance sampling are working well though.
> >
> > Here's the new update... they look more natural now. You just supply the macro
> > with two parameters and it will grow a tree out of the flower pot you provided.
> > The file is over at p.t.scene-files.
> >
> > ~Sam
>   Not too shabby! I on the other hand am still tinkering with the
> staircase ... a lot of pieces that I've been transforming around in
> different configurations, but nothing worth writing home about yet. I
> think I'll give the trees a try maybe it's just the diversion I need ...
> Cool!

Thanks!

Here's a test involving hanging branches. Maybe the trees (shrubs) could be up
on pedestals?

~Sam


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 21 Apr 2011 21:15:01
Message: <web.4db0d57e9fd34d3ee4469c9c0@news.povray.org>
"Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>
> Here's a test involving hanging branches. Maybe the trees (shrubs) could be up
> on pedestals?
>

I went ahead and dropped the new version (potted shrub) over to the usual place.
Same leaf, though it connects more closely to the branches now. The leaves
change color near the ends, though they could be a little bluer to help
distinguish the plant from the other trees.

It takes a bit long to parse (over 12 seconds on my machine), so it might need
some preview settings (a lower Seg value).

~Sam


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 22 Apr 2011 01:25:03
Message: <web.4db110709fd34d3e4f9e17890@news.povray.org>
"Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> "Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> >
> > Here's a test involving hanging branches. Maybe the trees (shrubs) could be up
> > on pedestals?
> >
>
> I went ahead and dropped the new version (potted shrub) over to the usual place.
> Same leaf, though it connects more closely to the branches now. The leaves
> change color near the ends, though they could be a little bluer to help
> distinguish the plant from the other trees.
>
> It takes a bit long to parse (over 12 seconds on my machine), so it might need
> some preview settings (a lower Seg value).

Some pruned shrubs here. They might be a nicer option than the others, for a
courtyard anyway :) The spherical version parses fairly quickly. If you're
interested I'll get 'em ready... tomorrow... ;o


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 22 Apr 2011 01:35:03
Message: <op.vubq4n1bufxv4h@xena>
On Fri, 22 Apr 2011 03:10:22 +0200, Samuel Benge <stb### [at] hotmailcom>  
wrote:

> "Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>>
>> Here's a test involving hanging branches. Maybe the trees (shrubs)  
>> could be up
>> on pedestals?
>>
>
> I went ahead and dropped the new version (potted shrub) over to the  
> usual place.
> Same leaf, though it connects more closely to the branches now. The  
> leaves
> change color near the ends, though they could be a little bluer to help
> distinguish the plant from the other trees.
>
> It takes a bit long to parse (over 12 seconds on my machine), so it  
> might need
> some preview settings (a lower Seg value).
>
> ~Sam

Wow!

I was struggling with TomTree and PovTree to get hanging branches and here  
you just did it!

-- 
-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 22 Apr 2011 01:38:44
Message: <op.vubrarpvufxv4h@xena>
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:06:28 +0200, Samuel Benge <stb### [at] hotmailcom>  
wrote:


> OK... trees are not my strong suit,

LOL


-- 
-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 22 Apr 2011 02:29:04
Message: <4db12030$1@news.povray.org>
> It was the actual solving I was wondering about :) I think I get the
> gist of how you did it: it looks at array entries to find free space and
> places blocks accordingly...
Sure, I first thought about how to build a wall, then I tried the 
easiest way to do it ...
;-)
Paolo


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From: Paolo Gibellini
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 22 Apr 2011 02:32:09
Message: <4db120e9$1@news.povray.org>
>Samuel Benge  on date 22/04/2011 07:21 wrote:
> "Samuel Benge"<stb### [at] hotmailcom>  wrote:
>> "Samuel Benge"<stb### [at] hotmailcom>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a test involving hanging branches. Maybe the trees (shrubs) could be up
>>> on pedestals?
>>>
>>
>> I went ahead and dropped the new version (potted shrub) over to the usual place.
>> Same leaf, though it connects more closely to the branches now. The leaves
>> change color near the ends, though they could be a little bluer to help
>> distinguish the plant from the other trees.
>>
>> It takes a bit long to parse (over 12 seconds on my machine), so it might need
>> some preview settings (a lower Seg value).
>
> Some pruned shrubs here. They might be a nicer option than the others, for a
> courtyard anyway :) The spherical version parses fairly quickly. If you're
> interested I'll get 'em ready... tomorrow... ;o
They are both beautiful!
Paolo


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 22 Apr 2011 03:32:45
Message: <4db12f1d$1@news.povray.org>
"Nekar Xenos" <nek### [at] gmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:op.vubq4n1bufxv4h@xena...

> Wow!
>
> I was struggling with TomTree and PovTree to get hanging branches and here 
> you just did it!

Yeah... me too... Here you see the really talented ones at work. 
Fascinating!
I shall be studying carefully the code. There is so much to learn from those 
guys :-)

Thomas


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 22 Apr 2011 07:42:55
Message: <4db169bf$1@news.povray.org>
On 04/22/2011 02:38 AM, Nekar Xenos wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:06:28 +0200, Samuel Benge <stb### [at] hotmailcom>
> wrote:
>
>
>> OK... trees are not my strong suit,
>
> LOL
>
>
No kidding ... Sam I've said it before, you're a wizard. I /really/ like 
the pruned versions. I'm going to go ahead and use the latest tree 
growing macro and start on placing a few trees in the scene. I resolved 
the staircase issue (I was over complicating things) and I've been 
working some on refining the camera pose.

I've updated two files ... the main scene file and the buildings file 
that pickups up the staircase (low detail because of the distance from 
camera) and some other minor changes ... the level ups in the courtyard 
are gone inside wall is now at 47.8 and the courtyard tile pattern was 
expanded to fit the slight gain in space.


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