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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 21 May 2011 16:46:15
Message: <4dd82497@news.povray.org>
On 21/05/2011 8:58 PM, stbenge wrote:
> I was going from what I could find here:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_architecture and also from the few
> buildings I've seen by Frank Lloyd Wright. There are some interesting
> ideas spanning many different styles, but by and large, most designs
> tend toward the utilitarian (form follows function) and simplistic.But
> I won't deny that there /are/ some buildings that manage to be useful
> /and/ look good.
>

Well you are not alone in your views. I could say that you are in the 
company of Prince Charles but I'm not that cruel. ;-)
This is a difficult subject to be objective about.
I saw many examples of attractive buildings in the link you posted. But 
then I was brought up in Glasgow, a very industrial city in my youth. I 
see beauty in lots of industrial settings. I even found the Oil Rigs I 
worked on had a strange beauty. The juxtaposition of wind farms against 
the beauty of nature is something I find attractive to look at. Even 
though I wouldn't want to live there.
I wonder, do you like the music of Bach?

> As a person who loves detailed art and stylized geometry, I find most
> modern architecture boring and just a little soul-destroying.

I do think that most modern housing is an eyesore.

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Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 21 May 2011 16:51:13
Message: <4dd825c1$1@news.povray.org>
On 21/05/2011 8:41 PM, Jim Holsenback wrote:
> On 05/21/2011 04:21 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> Still some modern buildings have their own beauty.
>
> yep ... modern-ish in age I suppose (built in 1915). the whole complex
> is loaded with eye candy. My son and I (when he was a little shaver)
> didn't have too much trouble spending the /whole/ day wandering around.
> One of my all time favorites
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Fine_Arts
>
It knocks the Glasgow palace of art into a cocked hat.

http://www.theglasgowstory.com/image.php?inum=TGSE01309&t=1&urltp=story.php?id=TGSFH08


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     Stephen


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 21 May 2011 18:25:45
Message: <op.vvuq83a0ufxv4h@xena>
On Sat, 21 May 2011 21:41:14 +0200, Jim Holsenback <nom### [at] nomailcom>  
wrote:

> On 05/21/2011 04:21 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> Still some modern buildings have their own beauty.
>
> yep ... modern-ish in age I suppose (built in 1915). the whole complex  
> is loaded with eye candy. My son and I (when he was a little shaver)  
> didn't have too much trouble spending the /whole/ day wandering around.  
> One of my all time favorites
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Fine_Arts
>

Beautiful. Now I want to go to the US.

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-Nekar Xenos-


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 23 May 2011 18:41:42
Message: <4ddae2a6@news.povray.org>
On 05/21/2011 03:48 PM, Jim Holsenback wrote:
> after some of the comments on my last post i've started sitting with a
> sketch pad when there is a lull in the shop trying to get some different
> ideas with the structure ... it's a shame that the courtyard tiles
> aren't seen better (looks killer from different view) and now the the
> jacobean panel that you've developed ... well hopefully i can come up
> with something that will do it justice. forge ahead and i'll do my best
> to have something as soon as i can, even if i have to put on a big pot
> of coffee and pull and all nighter ... excellent work sam

well ... what do y'all think?


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 24 May 2011 13:20:33
Message: <op.vvzw4hniufxv4h@xena>
On Tue, 24 May 2011 00:41:32 +0200, Jim Holsenback <nom### [at] nomailcom>  
wrote:

> On 05/21/2011 03:48 PM, Jim Holsenback wrote:
>> after some of the comments on my last post i've started sitting with a
>> sketch pad when there is a lull in the shop trying to get some different
>> ideas with the structure ... it's a shame that the courtyard tiles
>> aren't seen better (looks killer from different view) and now the the
>> jacobean panel that you've developed ... well hopefully i can come up
>> with something that will do it justice. forge ahead and i'll do my best
>> to have something as soon as i can, even if i have to put on a big pot
>> of coffee and pull and all nighter ... excellent work sam
>
> well ... what do y'all think?
>

I love it!

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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 24 May 2011 14:39:38
Message: <4ddbfb6a@news.povray.org>
On 5/21/2011 1:46 PM, Stephen wrote:
> On 21/05/2011 8:58 PM, stbenge wrote:
>> I was going from what I could find here:
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_architecture and also from the few
>> buildings I've seen by Frank Lloyd Wright. There are some interesting
>> ideas spanning many different styles, but by and large, most designs
>> tend toward the utilitarian (form follows function) and simplistic.But
>> I won't deny that there /are/ some buildings that manage to be useful
>> /and/ look good.
>
> Well you are not alone in your views. I could say that you are in the
> company of Prince Charles but I'm not that cruel. ;-)
> This is a difficult subject to be objective about.
> I saw many examples of attractive buildings in the link you posted. But
> then I was brought up in Glasgow, a very industrial city in my youth.

Some of those buildings were just horrible, others were better. My 
dislike of modern architecture is probably not going to stop me from 
rendering such things in the future, though. I might have already...

> I
> see beauty in lots of industrial settings. I even found the Oil Rigs I
> worked on had a strange beauty.

Yeah. There's this old cement plant nearby, totally industrial. Ugly 
stuff, though strangely captivating. A blast to explore simply for its 
nightmarish aspect (and the dizzying heights).

> I wonder, do you like the music of Bach?

Somewhat.

>> As a person who loves detailed art and stylized geometry, I find most
>> modern architecture boring and just a little soul-destroying.
>
> I do think that most modern housing is an eyesore.

Especially when the same design is copied over and over, in a big row :(


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 24 May 2011 14:50:01
Message: <web.4ddbfd509fd34d3e5f336ae30@news.povray.org>
Jim Holsenback <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote:
> On 05/21/2011 03:48 PM, Jim Holsenback wrote:
> > after some of the comments on my last post i've started sitting with a
> > sketch pad when there is a lull in the shop trying to get some different
> > ideas with the structure ... it's a shame that the courtyard tiles
> > aren't seen better (looks killer from different view) and now the the
> > jacobean panel that you've developed ... well hopefully i can come up
> > with something that will do it justice. forge ahead and i'll do my best
> > to have something as soon as i can, even if i have to put on a big pot
> > of coffee and pull and all nighter ... excellent work sam
>
> well ... what do y'all think?

Excellent viewpoint, Jim! Very moody.

Attached is an example of the ceiling tiles macro (with added lights). The
design was created in Illustrator and beveled with POV. There's probably a good
scene here somewhere...

~Sam


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 24 May 2011 20:00:32
Message: <4ddc46a0$1@news.povray.org>
On 24/05/2011 7:47 PM, Samuel Benge wrote:
> Attached is an example of the ceiling tiles macro (with added lights). The
> design was created in Illustrator and beveled with POV. There's probably a good
> scene here somewhere...

Yes!


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     Stephen


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From: Nekar Xenos
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 24 May 2011 23:50:26
Message: <op.vv0p99w4ufxv4h@xena>
On Tue, 24 May 2011 20:39:38 +0200, stbenge <"egnebts  
<-inverted"@hotmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/21/2011 1:46 PM, Stephen wrote:
>> On 21/05/2011 8:58 PM, stbenge wrote:
>>> I was going from what I could find here:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_architecture and also from the few
>>> buildings I've seen by Frank Lloyd Wright. There are some interesting
>>> ideas spanning many different styles, but by and large, most designs
>>> tend toward the utilitarian (form follows function) and simplistic.But
>>> I won't deny that there /are/ some buildings that manage to be useful
>>> /and/ look good.
>>
>> Well you are not alone in your views. I could say that you are in the
>> company of Prince Charles but I'm not that cruel. ;-)
>> This is a difficult subject to be objective about.
>> I saw many examples of attractive buildings in the link you posted. But
>> then I was brought up in Glasgow, a very industrial city in my youth.
>
> Some of those buildings were just horrible, others were better. My  
> dislike of modern architecture is probably not going to stop me from  
> rendering such things in the future, though. I might have already...
>
>> I
>> see beauty in lots of industrial settings. I even found the Oil Rigs I
>> worked on had a strange beauty.
>
> Yeah. There's this old cement plant nearby, totally industrial. Ugly  
> stuff, though strangely captivating. A blast to explore simply for its  
> nightmarish aspect (and the dizzying heights).
>
>> I wonder, do you like the music of Bach?
>
> Somewhat.
>
>>> As a person who loves detailed art and stylized geometry, I find most
>>> modern architecture boring and just a little soul-destroying.
>>
>> I do think that most modern housing is an eyesore.
>
> Especially when the same design is copied over and over, in a big row :(
>

I've heard that architects are extremely busy, working long hours. I guess  
they don't have time to be creative with all these scyscrapers you need to  
be more mathematical than creative...

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-Nekar Xenos-


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: Persistence of Vision
Date: 25 May 2011 01:22:29
Message: <4ddc9215@news.povray.org>
On 5/24/2011 8:50 PM, Nekar Xenos wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2011 20:39:38 +0200, stbenge <"egnebts
> <-inverted"@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Well you are not alone in your views. I could say that you are in the
>>> company of Prince Charles but I'm not that cruel. ;-)
>>> This is a difficult subject to be objective about.
>>> I saw many examples of attractive buildings in the link you posted. But
>>> then I was brought up in Glasgow, a very industrial city in my youth.
>>
>> Some of those buildings were just horrible, others were better. My
>> dislike of modern architecture is probably not going to stop me from
>> rendering such things in the future, though. I might have already...
>>
>>> I do think that most modern housing is an eyesore.
>>
>> Especially when the same design is copied over and over, in a big row :(
>
> I've heard that architects are extremely busy, working long hours. I
> guess they don't have time to be creative with all these scyscrapers you
> need to be more mathematical than creative...
>

Lol! Ha... ah, ugh... no. I really for sorry for them :(

I love math, geometry, funny numbers. But set me to work before a large 
monolith, and everything great about it becomes nonsense after awhile. 
It's easy to forget /why/ you started something, when the end of it 
can't be seen, when the reason behind it is dust in contrast against 
what's really important.

I guess that's why I don't finish so many projects...

~Sam

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