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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Ghurghusht: artifacts at dawn
Date: 10 Jun 2010 16:50:38
Message: <4c11501e$1@news.povray.org>
Am 10.06.2010 22:04, schrieb Jim Holsenback:

>> No, not jittered light sources, but jittered media samples; someone
>> forget to put that one into the syntax overview of media, but it's
>> mentioned in the inbuilt help, section 3.6.2.2, "Sampling Parameters&
>> Methods" (last paragraph).
>
> default value = 0?

I guess so.

(...digs through sourcecode...)

Yup - at least in 3.7.

BTW, I just notice that the aa_level default is incorrectly stated as 4 
in the docs, while according to source code it's actually 3.


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Ghurghusht: artifacts at dawn
Date: 10 Jun 2010 17:08:44
Message: <4c11545c$1@news.povray.org>
Am 10.06.2010 22:49, schrieb Dave Blandston:
> =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg_=27Yadgar=27_Bleimann?=<yaz### [at] gmxde>  wrote:
>> Yes, you should set the y value of Rot_Ghurghusht (line 552) to 150!
>
> Nope, that wasn't it...

Unfortunately some of the terrain-generating patterns give different 
results in POV-Ray 3.7 (at least the crackle).


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Ghurghusht: artifacts at dawn
Date: 10 Jun 2010 17:10:12
Message: <4c1154b4$1@news.povray.org>


> And I wonder what makes the water (gleaned from Christoph
> Hormann's pages) reflect a blue sky even when it should be as black as
> pitch...

For this, the culprit is the "preliminary sea floor", having an ambient 
of 0.05 (and a blue pigment).


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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Ghurghusht: artifacts at dawn
Date: 10 Jun 2010 22:48:25
Message: <4c11a3f9@news.povray.org>
High!

On 06/10/2010 05:04 PM, clipka wrote:

> No, not jittered light sources, but jittered media samples; someone
> forget to put that one into the syntax overview of media, but it's
> mentioned in the inbuilt help, section 3.6.2.2, "Sampling Parameters &
> Methods" (last paragraph).

O.k., I tried this (see attached image) - now it looks somewhat better, 
but still not really good. I'll try also intervals 1, samples 50 with 
and without jitter, watch out!

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Ghurghusht: artifacts at dawn
Date: 11 Jun 2010 06:08:50
Message: <4c120b32@news.povray.org>
On 06/10/2010 05:50 PM, clipka wrote:
> Am 10.06.2010 22:04, schrieb Jim Holsenback:
> 
>>> No, not jittered light sources, but jittered media samples; someone
>>> forget to put that one into the syntax overview of media, but it's
>>> mentioned in the inbuilt help, section 3.6.2.2, "Sampling Parameters&
>>> Methods" (last paragraph).
>>
>> default value = 0?
> 
> I guess so.
> 
> (...digs through sourcecode...)
> 
> Yup - at least in 3.7.
> 
> BTW, I just notice that the aa_level default is incorrectly stated as 4
> in the docs, while according to source code it's actually 3.

cool ... two for the price of one!


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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Ghurghusht: artifacts at dawn
Date: 11 Jun 2010 13:42:18
Message: <4c12757a@news.povray.org>
High!

On 06/10/2010 06:43 PM, Alain wrote:

> intervals must stay at 1, default value.
> Increase the samples to 30 to 50 instead.

I tried intervals 1, samples 50, jitter 0.5... now it looks considerably 
better (albeit still slightly streaky, see attached image) but... it 
took aaaaaaages to render, some 7 hours and 30 minutes!

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Ghurghusht: artifacts at dawn
Date: 11 Jun 2010 13:59:11
Message: <4c12796f@news.povray.org>


> I tried intervals 1, samples 50, jitter 0.5... now it looks considerably
> better (albeit still slightly streaky, see attached image)

Maybe some streakiness is caused by mountains?


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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Ghurghusht: artifacts at dawn
Date: 11 Jun 2010 14:28:49
Message: <4c128061$1@news.povray.org>
High!

On 06/11/2010 07:59 PM, clipka wrote:

> Maybe some streakiness is caused by mountains?

How that? Or do you mean the bright spots on the hills?

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Ghurghusht: artifacts at dawn
Date: 11 Jun 2010 15:57:58
Message: <4c129546$1@news.povray.org>

> High!
>
> On 06/11/2010 07:59 PM, clipka wrote:
>
>> Maybe some streakiness is caused by mountains?
>
> How that? Or do you mean the bright spots on the hills?

No, I do mean the streakiness in the skies.

Mountains at the terminator block the light at some places, thereby 
creating volumetric shadows in the atmospheric media, which might be 
percieved as streaks.

I still have no idea about the bright spots on the hills. At present, I 
can only imagine that it's some precision problem with the isosurface.


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From: Jörg 'Yadgar' Bleimann
Subject: Re: Ghurghusht: artifacts at dawn
Date: 11 Jun 2010 16:06:41
Message: <4c129751$1@news.povray.org>
High!

On 06/11/2010 09:57 PM, clipka wrote:

> I still have no idea about the bright spots on the hills. At present, I
> can only imagine that it's some precision problem with the isosurface.

Increasing isosurface accuracy didn't help, I tried this earlier...

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar

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