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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Journey to an Unknown Region [wip]
Date: 7 Dec 2009 04:35:01
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"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> I am not sure about vegetation (fir
> trees) as I am still hesitating about the altitude suggested.

Maybe not foreground vegetation (as you say, it looks too high for trees), but a
treeline in the distance might make a huge difference.

Nice work, I look forward to more.

Bill


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Journey to an Unknown Region [wip]
Date: 7 Dec 2009 07:34:33
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"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht 
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>
> Maybe not foreground vegetation (as you say, it looks too high for trees), 
> but a
> treeline in the distance might make a huge difference.

Yes, I think that would be the goal.

>
> Nice work, I look forward to more.

Thanks! :)

Thomas


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Journey to an Unknown Region [wip]
Date: 7 Dec 2009 16:40:00
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"Thomas de Groot" <tDOTdegroot@interDOTnlANOTHERDOTnet> wrote:
> Winter is coming, so...
>
> I used a couple of World Machine height_fields as basis for a function, with
> an appropriate slope/altitude map.
>
> The title refers to the novel Lavondyss by Robert Holdstock. The scene may
> turn out as a kind of illustration to this novel.
>
> --
> All the best,
>
> Thomas

Excellent landscape Thomas, like others have already pointed out I think the
right side especially at the front needs to be a bit more rugged and the snow in
the foreground looks like it has been painted onto the rocks. However, the snow
in the middle/and distance is perfect. I don't think the clouds look quite
realistic but then I find myself looking at the sky sometimes and thinking the
same thing, kind of if I had rendered that sky I wouldn't think it was realistic
so I am sure there have been clouds just like that somewhere..

Sean


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Journey to an Unknown Region [wip]
Date: 7 Dec 2009 17:41:31
Message: <4b1d849b$1@news.povray.org>
Looks cold.


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From: TC
Subject: Re: Journey to an Unknown Region [wip]
Date: 7 Dec 2009 19:14:00
Message: <4b1d9a48@news.povray.org>
> in the middle/and distance is perfect. I don't think the clouds look quite
> realistic but then I find myself looking at the sky sometimes and thinking 
> the
> same thing, kind of if I had rendered that sky I wouldn't think it was 
> realistic
> so I am sure there have been clouds just like that somewhere..

You are right here. There are things like deep purple sunsets and pink 
sunrises or a sky-cloud combination on a somewhat rainy day in December that 
will illuminate a single tree like somebody trained a giant spotlight on it.

Today I looked at ground-fog in a small forest glade, the fog filling the 
glade completely and maybe three feet high, a soft breeze stirring the fog, 
sending white tendrils skyward. It looked like a scene straight out of a 
horror B-movie.

Nature can be unbelievably beautiful, in the truest sense of the word.

One of the most strange sights I ever saw was on a November morning more 
than a decade past. In the night it was pretty warm for the season and water 
evaporating from the lake must have created a ground fog. Then the 
temperature dropped really quickly below zero and all trees near the lake 
were covered in webs of glittering frost, while the ground (being able to 
hold the warmth longer) was completely void of snow. The beauty lasted only 
one half-hour...


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From: Larry Hudson
Subject: Re: Journey to an Unknown Region [wip]
Date: 7 Dec 2009 23:16:12
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TC wrote:

> You are right here. There are things like deep purple sunsets and pink 
> sunrises or a sky-cloud combination on a somewhat rainy day in December that 
> will illuminate a single tree like somebody trained a giant spotlight on it.
> 
> Today I looked at ground-fog in a small forest glade, the fog filling the 
> glade completely and maybe three feet high, a soft breeze stirring the fog, 
> sending white tendrils skyward. It looked like a scene straight out of a 
> horror B-movie.
> 
> Nature can be unbelievably beautiful, in the truest sense of the word.
> 
> One of the most strange sights I ever saw was on a November morning more 
> than a decade past. In the night it was pretty warm for the season and water 
> evaporating from the lake must have created a ground fog. Then the 
> temperature dropped really quickly below zero and all trees near the lake 
> were covered in webs of glittering frost, while the ground (being able to 
> hold the warmth longer) was completely void of snow. The beauty lasted only 
> one half-hour...
> 
The most spectacular sight of this sort that I've seen was many years ago ('61 or
'62).  I was 
in the (U.S.) Army stationed in Germany.  I was driving along a mountainside
overlooking a broad 
valley with gentle rolling hills in it.  It was springtime, everything was green.  It
had been 
raining but wasn't at the moment.  The sky was still heavily overcast keeping
everything 
shadowed, except for a break in the clouds illuminating one hilltop -- with a castle
on it.  And 
a rainbow right next to it.

Even though this was almost 50 years ago and I only got a brief glimpse of it, it was
such an 
outstanding sight I still remember it vividly.

      -=- Larry -=-


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Journey to an Unknown Region [wip]
Date: 8 Dec 2009 03:07:52
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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> schreef in bericht 
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>  Looks cold.

Thanks Warp. That is certainly the feeling I want to convey.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Journey to an Unknown Region [wip]
Date: 8 Dec 2009 03:16:01
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"s.day" <s.d### [at] uelacuk> schreef in bericht 
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> Excellent landscape Thomas, like others have already pointed out I think 
> the
> right side especially at the front needs to be a bit more rugged and the 
> snow in
> the foreground looks like it has been painted onto the rocks. However, the 
> snow
> in the middle/and distance is perfect. I don't think the clouds look quite
> realistic but then I find myself looking at the sky sometimes and thinking 
> the
> same thing, kind of if I had rendered that sky I wouldn't think it was 
> realistic
> so I am sure there have been clouds just like that somewhere..
>

Thanks, Sean. Yes the foreground is going to get most attention for 
improvement. I had expected that of course knowing that I could not get away 
with a correct foreground at this scale and with a height_field. I agree 
about the sky, however I like it as it is now and I may do something about 
it later. I think that the doubt comes from the fact that the clouds do not 
seem to decrease in size towards the horizon. There is a size discrepancy 
between them and the scene which I shall have to address sooner or later.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Journey to an Unknown Region [wip]
Date: 8 Dec 2009 03:19:30
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"TC" <do-not-reply@i-do get-enough-spam-already-2498.com> schreef in bericht 
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> You are right here. There are things like deep purple sunsets and pink 
> sunrises or a sky-cloud combination on a somewhat rainy day in December 
> that will illuminate a single tree like somebody trained a giant spotlight 
> on it.
>
> Today I looked at ground-fog in a small forest glade, the fog filling the 
> glade completely and maybe three feet high, a soft breeze stirring the 
> fog, sending white tendrils skyward. It looked like a scene straight out 
> of a horror B-movie.
>
> Nature can be unbelievably beautiful, in the truest sense of the word.
>
> One of the most strange sights I ever saw was on a November morning more 
> than a decade past. In the night it was pretty warm for the season and 
> water evaporating from the lake must have created a ground fog. Then the 
> temperature dropped really quickly below zero and all trees near the lake 
> were covered in webs of glittering frost, while the ground (being able to 
> hold the warmth longer) was completely void of snow. The beauty lasted 
> only one half-hour...


Cool.
I usually try to have a camera with me when going outdoors, just to catch 
those fleeting moments. Truth is that often when I see some such, I have 
forgotten to take my camera with me  :-)

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Journey to an Unknown Region [wip]
Date: 8 Dec 2009 03:23:09
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"Larry Hudson" <org### [at] yahoocom> schreef in bericht 
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> The most spectacular sight of this sort that I've seen was many years ago 
> ('61 or '62).  I was in the (U.S.) Army stationed in Germany.  I was 
> driving along a mountainside overlooking a broad valley with gentle 
> rolling hills in it.  It was springtime, everything was green.  It had 
> been raining but wasn't at the moment.  The sky was still heavily overcast 
> keeping everything shadowed, except for a break in the clouds illuminating 
> one hilltop -- with a castle on it.  And a rainbow right next to it.
>
> Even though this was almost 50 years ago and I only got a brief glimpse of 
> it, it was such an outstanding sight I still remember it vividly.
>

That is wonderful indeed. Like a painting of Wilhelm Friedrich. Those 
experiences are like a kind of epiphany.

Thomas


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