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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 01:13:09
Message: <498148f5@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:
> Luminous Bloom point pattern, I just had to look.

Yep, I had to fill the disc evenly :)

> Still wondering what you're running in your veins to make you such a genius.
> 
> Find a source for Ampakines yet?
> 
> http://www.nootropics.com/refs/

I was never looking for that. I don't think it's such a great idea to be 
messing with glutamate activity directly. Glutamic acid agonists *and* 
antagonists both pose different problems. Both can lead to cell death. 
Granted, there are many types of glutamate receptors, and many drugs 
affecting them which are benign. But look here. It's a crumb leading to 
potentially damning information regarding ampakines:

http://www.glgroup.com/News/CX717--Cortex-Pharmaceuticals-Ampakine-Drug-for-ADHD-Struck-Down-by-FDA-17844.html

I'm sure the hole goes deeper, but I'm not terribly interested in 
nootropics. I take that back. I like coffee.

> OMG what life could be if people had the balls to stomp out greedy government
> turd-sandwiches

That could get messy, and you'd better have a good case.

I know we need to have some of the drug laws changed though; minor drug 
offenders are still going to jail with violent criminals. And for a less 
harmful drug than tobacco or alcohol... Both sides are still advancing 
though, so don't think nothing is being done. It's just moving at a 
snail's pace.

It's good to remember that not all government offices are corrupt. But 
the ones that are stink more than the rest. I get the feeling that a lot 
of people in the loop stand idle while dirty deeds are afoot :(

Sam


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 01:31:21
Message: <49814d39@news.povray.org>
Larry Hudson wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
>> Scat is interesting stuff. You get an idea of what the animal ate. I 
>> once saw coyote scat with prickly pear berry seeds in it. If you don't 
>> already know, prickly pears are cacti, and the berries have many 
>> thorns on them. Prickly pears have both large and fine thorns, and the 
>> small ones do not come out easily. Coyotes are desperate creatures.
>>
> 
> Just for general info, here are a couple links to descriptions and 
> pictures of prickly pear cactus:
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opuntia
> http://www.desertusa.com/magoct97/oct_pa/du_prkpear.html

Very informative. I didn't know that prickly pears have such reactive 
anthers. Pretty cool. Plus, I got a reminder about what anthers are ;)

> It's said that they make some very good jams/jellies.  (Never had a 
> chance to try any myself though...)    :-(

Never had the jam, but I've had the berries. A little on the slimy side, 
but otherwise delicious. They might go well in sweet bread, if harvested 
at the right time and used in small amounts.

Sam


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 01:32:50
Message: <49814d92$1@news.povray.org>
Alain wrote:
> One of the best close up grass view to date.
> Some peoples may mistake that image for a photo.

Why, thank you :)

I should work on it again, before it becomes a Cold Scene :/


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 01:50:10
Message: <498151a2@news.povray.org>
stbenge wrote:
> Never had the jam, but I've had the berries. A little on the slimy side, 

Not as slimy as the scat.

   -- Darren (who lives where the coyotes poop on the lawn)


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 01:53:23
Message: <49815263$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
>> Never had the jam, but I've had the berries. A little on the slimy side, 
> 
> Not as slimy as the scat.

Don't eat the brown berries.


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 07:39:01
Message: <4981a365$1@news.povray.org>
stbenge wrote:
> alphaQuad wrote:
>> OMG what life could be if people had the balls to stomp out greedy 
>> government
>> turd-sandwiches
> 
> That could get messy, and you'd better have a good case.
> 
> I know we need to have some of the drug laws changed though; minor drug 
> offenders are still going to jail with violent criminals. And for a less 
> harmful drug than tobacco or alcohol... Both sides are still advancing 
> though, so don't think nothing is being done. It's just moving at a 
> snail's pace.
> 
> It's good to remember that not all government offices are corrupt. But 
> the ones that are stink more than the rest. I get the feeling that a lot 
> of people in the loop stand idle while dirty deeds are afoot :(
> 
> Sam

Sam, you're feeding our resident troll.  :-/


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From: stbenge
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 13:24:57
Message: <4981f479$1@news.povray.org>
Kyle wrote:
> Sam, you're feeding our resident troll.  :-/

Worse, I've let the topic stray into realms unsuitable for family 
viewing. I'll remove my post if the mods want me to. I really don't want 
to offend people.

Sam


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 29 Jan 2009 15:25:00
Message: <web.49820f707624d145776dbc490@news.povray.org>
Kyle <no### [at] spamok> wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
> > alphaQuad wrote:
> >> OMG what life could be if people had the balls to stomp out greedy
> >> government
> >> turd-sandwiches
> >
> > That could get messy, and you'd better have a good case.
> >
> > I know we need to have some of the drug laws changed though; minor drug
> > offenders are still going to jail with violent criminals. And for a less
> > harmful drug than tobacco or alcohol... Both sides are still advancing
> > though, so don't think nothing is being done. It's just moving at a
> > snail's pace.
> >
> > It's good to remember that not all government offices are corrupt. But
> > the ones that are stink more than the rest. I get the feeling that a lot
> > of people in the loop stand idle while dirty deeds are afoot :(
> >
> > Sam
>
> Sam, you're feeding our resident troll.  :-/



handle. Where's all those great pictures you've rendered and posted. I do
better looking stuff than you can imagine and more often that anyone else.
Trolls only twist reality into some self-serving tool of manipulation has you
clearly do well. There's mirror in your bathroom, you do have a bathroom? Meet
a real troll. U POS

Sam is obviously the most intelligent person on this board, but your
manipulation of him is by far the most "trollie" thing I've seen yet.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 30 Jan 2009 04:28:49
Message: <4982c851$1@news.povray.org>
I am coming in late to comment, but RL you know... :-(
This is an excellent example of what can be done with your proximity macro. 
I nerver thought about this possibility, and it opens a couple of 
interesting windows. I shall have to jump deeper; I just have skimmed the 
surface obviously...

Sam, you should hire a *code editor* it seems  :-)

Thomas


"stbenge" <^@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht 
news:497e6bb6@news.povray.org...
> Hello everyone,
>
> I run a lot of tests over here, though very few ever make it to the
> public. I figured this image was worth posting, even if it is unfinished.
>
> Grass, rocks. The rocks are a single height_field, tested and created
> using a crackle form chart I devised some time ago, and should post
> someday. I gave the HF a proximity pattern, which I then used to give it
> a more interesting texture.
>
> The grass is a clump composed of a single mesh which was copied, rotated
> and translated randomly. The clumps were placed upon the HF using
> trace(), and only appear in cracks. This was accomplished using the
> aforementioned proximity pattern.
>
> I'm pretty happy with the way it's turning out, and hope to add
> something to make the scene more interesting. Coyote scat would be
> relevant, but I'm not sure about the appropriateness of adding that :)
>
> Comments and questions are always welcome, though I'm not too sure about
> releasing the code, which is a mess.
>
> Sam
>


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: grass and rocks (168kb jpg)
Date: 30 Jan 2009 17:35:00
Message: <web.49837fb47624d145fd0f18610@news.povray.org>
stbenge <^@hotmail.com> wrote:
> alphaQuad wrote:
> > Luminous Bloom point pattern, I just had to look.
>
> Yep, I had to fill the disc evenly :)
>
> > Still wondering what you're running in your veins to make you such a genius.
> >
> > Find a source for Ampakines yet?
> >
> > http://www.nootropics.com/refs/
>
> I was never looking for that. I don't think it's such a great idea to be
> messing with glutamate activity directly. Glutamic acid agonists *and*
> antagonists both pose different problems. Both can lead to cell death.
> Granted, there are many types of glutamate receptors, and many drugs
> affecting them which are benign. But look here. It's a crumb leading to
> potentially damning information regarding ampakines:
>
>
http://www.glgroup.com/News/CX717--Cortex-Pharmaceuticals-Ampakine-Drug-for-ADHD-Struck-Down-by-FDA-17844.html

How many times do hear the FDA lie to me before I stop believing.?????

Analysis: Ampakines potentiate neurotransmission at AMPA-type glutamate
receptors, enhance arousal and attention, and have shown potential

suggests to me that there may be evidence that CX717 had some neurotoxic
effects. Overexcitation of AMPA-type glutamate receptors have been shown to
cause cell death.

I need the results from a second unbiased observer before I can believe things
the FDA says.


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