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Thomas de Groot wrote:
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Come on. This is worth a larger, better AA render. Don't leave it just yet.
The kids take away from it, IMO, but a very nice picture.
-Shay
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"Shay" <shay@s.s> schreef in bericht news:46d82467@news.povray.org...
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> Come on. This is worth a larger, better AA render. Don't leave it just
> yet.
Yes I know, and I mentioned it too. :-(
I probably shall do one later, but for now I want to concentrate first on
some other work. I don't like to have the machine working overnight, so that
I can keep an eye on the progress and interfere at once when necessary.
>
> The kids take away from it, IMO, but a very nice picture.
Well, it is a matter of taste I think. Personally, I do like them there.
Thanks by the way, for your always much appreciated comments!
Thomas
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> Shay:
>> The kids take away from it, IMO, but a very nice picture.
> Well, it is a matter of taste I think. Personally, I do like
> them there.
Yes, a matter of taste. For the purpose of discussion, I'll expand just
a bit on my tastes and what I mean by "take away from it."
I have a problem with most big-budget films. A massive audience is
required to make back the money spent on these films. This massive
audience is too often built by designing big-budget films to attract
several disparate groups. Therefore, where a small independent film
might be about a Iskander's discovery of a valuable piece of
information, the big budget counterpart would be about Iskander's
discovery of a valuable piece of information; a crusty-but-benign police
lieutenant who's always getting heat from the commissioner; a
hard-nosed, hard-drinking detective who thinks women belong in the
kitchen; the brilliant and beautiful young girl cop who's fighting the
feminist battle on the force; a hair raising boat chase; and two "gosh
darn kids" who foil an evil plot against Iskander.
Looking at your picture, I am intensely interested in what information
Iskander is hearing and to what use he will put it. I know the kids are
part of the story and dread the point at which the plot will shift away
to their role in events. For the same reason, I can't watch a movie like
"Braveheart" or "The Patriot" more than once - too uneven in tone. Some
love these types of laugh-cry-cheer-sigh epic movies. Yes, a matter of
taste.
-Shay
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Thomas de Groot wrote:
> This is my final render of the Eavesdropping scene.
Beautiful scene Thomas. Artists capable of full-fledged, complex scenes
are not extinct afterall! It's quite an accomplishment. And you have
updated the enterprise to include the latests techniques available in
Poser.
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Shay wrote:
> Thomas de Groot wrote:
>
>>> Shay:
>>> The kids take away from it, IMO, but a very nice picture.
>
>> Well, it is a matter of taste I think. Personally, I do like
>> them there.
>
> Yes, a matter of taste. For the purpose of discussion, I'll expand just
> a bit on my tastes and what I mean by "take away from it."
>
> I have a problem with most big-budget films. A massive audience is
> required to make back the money spent on these films. This massive
> audience is too often built by designing big-budget films to attract
> several disparate groups. Therefore, where a small independent film
> might be about a Iskander's discovery of a valuable piece of
> information, the big budget counterpart would be about Iskander's
> discovery of a valuable piece of information; a crusty-but-benign police
> lieutenant who's always getting heat from the commissioner; a
> hard-nosed, hard-drinking detective who thinks women belong in the
> kitchen; the brilliant and beautiful young girl cop who's fighting the
> feminist battle on the force; a hair raising boat chase; and two "gosh
> darn kids" who foil an evil plot against Iskander.
>
> Looking at your picture, I am intensely interested in what information
> Iskander is hearing and to what use he will put it. I know the kids are
> part of the story and dread the point at which the plot will shift away
> to their role in events.
Interesting, I didn't assume that the kids would be part of the story.
For me their presence enhances the sense or naturality. Without them it
would be a stealth meeting at a time when nobody else is there or at a
deserted place, and someone spying in the first degree. With them it is
just some scene in a busy harbour and someone, possibly even
accidentally, listening in.
> For the same reason, I can't watch a movie like
> "Braveheart" or "The Patriot" more than once - too uneven in tone. Some
> love these types of laugh-cry-cheer-sigh epic movies. Yes, a matter of
> taste.
>
> -Shay
BTW, Thomas I like this scene with all its attention to details. I
didn't respond earlier because I though I had nothing to add to the
others. Now it is the 'final' one I should perhaps express my appreciation.
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"Shay" <shay@s.s> schreef in bericht news:46d844e5$1@news.povray.org...
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> Yes, a matter of taste. For the purpose of discussion, I'll expand just
> a bit on my tastes and what I mean by "take away from it."
>
> I have a problem with most big-budget films. A massive audience is
> required to make back the money spent on these films. This massive
> audience is too often built by designing big-budget films to attract
> several disparate groups. Therefore, where a small independent film
> might be about a Iskander's discovery of a valuable piece of
> information, the big budget counterpart would be about Iskander's
> discovery of a valuable piece of information; a crusty-but-benign police
> lieutenant who's always getting heat from the commissioner; a
> hard-nosed, hard-drinking detective who thinks women belong in the
> kitchen; the brilliant and beautiful young girl cop who's fighting the
> feminist battle on the force; a hair raising boat chase; and two "gosh
> darn kids" who foil an evil plot against Iskander.
>
> Looking at your picture, I am intensely interested in what information
> Iskander is hearing and to what use he will put it. I know the kids are
> part of the story and dread the point at which the plot will shift away
> to their role in events. For the same reason, I can't watch a movie like
> "Braveheart" or "The Patriot" more than once - too uneven in tone. Some
> love these types of laugh-cry-cheer-sigh epic movies. Yes, a matter of
> taste.
>
I fully agree with what you say. More, I feel exactly like you! :-)
However, in the present scene, the kids are part of the story's 'landscape',
not of the plot. In another scene I have in mind, they will reappear, but
again, only as witnesses of something going on, in the same way that the
'observer' (you, me) is a witness to the action.
Thomas
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"andrel" <a_l### [at] hotmail com> schreef in bericht
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> Interesting, I didn't assume that the kids would be part of the story. For
> me their presence enhances the sense or naturality. Without them it would
> be a stealth meeting at a time when nobody else is there or at a deserted
> place, and someone spying in the first degree. With them it is just some
> scene in a busy harbour and someone, possibly even accidentally, listening
> in.
Yes, that is the idea.
>
> BTW, Thomas I like this scene with all its attention to details. I didn't
> respond earlier because I though I had nothing to add to the others. Now
> it is the 'final' one I should perhaps express my appreciation.
Thank you indeed, Andrel. I am glad you like it :-)
Thomas
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> schreef in bericht
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> Thomas de Groot wrote:
>> This is my final render of the Eavesdropping scene.
>
> Beautiful scene Thomas. Artists capable of full-fledged, complex scenes
> are not extinct afterall! It's quite an accomplishment. And you have
> updated the enterprise to include the latests techniques available in
> Poser.
Oh, thank you indeed, Jim! Your words make me think of the great epic
paintings so representative of the 19th century (Delacroix for instance, and
the Orientalism-oriented school; and not to forget: Ilya Repin or the
Wyeth's). I certainly cannot deny humble inspiration from those and later
artists. After all, they are part of the cultural substrate with which I was
brought up. As well, I should say, as some literary sources, one of which
is - I have the impression - mostly forgotten nowadays: Wilhelm Hauff.
I think I have said this already somewhere, but Poser has been a revelation
to me, giving me the tools I needed to give life to scenes that have haunted
me since my youth. I am a poor drawer, and even worse painter, but with
POV-Ray, Poser, and a couple of other fantastic tools, I am able to overcome
that :-)
Thomas
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Just thought I'd drop by to say I really like this Thomas, well done!
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"scam" <sca### [at] mailusydeduau> schreef in bericht
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> Just thought I'd drop by to say I really like this Thomas, well done!
>
Thank you indeed! Much appreciated.
Thomas
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