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From: St 
Subject: Re: That cross, close up.
Date: 15 Jul 2007 03:51:55
Message: <4699d21b$1@news.povray.org>
"Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] THIShotmailcom> wrote in message 
news:4697c9ec@news.povray.org...
> St. wrote:
>> Yellow and rose gold. It's the cross in my 'Before and After' image...
>>
>>    ~Steve~
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Whew, I thought Thunderbird would never let me reply! That's a very nice 
> design, Steve. Those diamonds are also awesome.


  Heh, thanks Sam. I think I struck lucky with the diamonds. ;) Not so sure 
about them in the next image though.



I'm guessing the leaves
> and berries are a height_field? Of course, after seeing the earrings, I'm 
> not so sure.

  You would be right to be doubtful, they're all Wings models.


>
> One critique about the gold texture: the reflections need to be more 
> contrasty, IMO. May I suggest no ambient, high brilliance (probably 
> already has that) and high reflection (more than 0.5)?

    Hmm, I didn't have brilliance in the statement with those first two 
images, but I've tried it in the next image. Here's what I've used:

    T_Gold_2A
     finish{
      diffuse 0.3
      ambient 0.0
      specular 0.6
      brilliance .5
      phong .5
      reflection .5
      conserve_energy}}

   I'm not sure if it has made a difference or not, but what else could I 
change or add?




>
> Are you able to make designs of this kind in real life? I know you're a 
> jeweler, that's why I ask :)

    Well, I hope I can make them! :) These might be going in a catalogue 
soon. (I'd made the mistake of showing the bossman one of my printed 
renders, and he thinks it's a photograph, so he wants me to design something 
for the catalogue). I designed the earrings about two years ago, and the 
cross and brooch are new designs. The idea is to have sprinklings of 
diamonds on the new designs. Yes, I can make them.  :o)



It would be *very* cool to make my own
> jewelry

 All you need is a 3' x 2' bench in a 6' space, some hand tools, propane, 
and you're away.

(especially since we can find our own gold up here in the Gold
> Country!).

   Lucky you! Send some my way!  :o)

>
> Nice work! Those earrings are a perfect match for the cross.

     Thank you.

     ~Steve~


>
> ~Sam


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From: St 
Subject: Re: That cross, close up.
Date: 15 Jul 2007 04:06:55
Message: <4699d59f@news.povray.org>
Now with a brooch, or, as some of you might call it, a pin. With this image 
I cranked it up and used +a0.0 +am2, and it took 6.5 hours! The first two 
images took just 30 mins. each with standard AA.


   ~Steve~


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From: St 
Subject: Re: That cross, close up.
Date: 15 Jul 2007 04:06:58
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"Janet" <par### [at] attnet> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>> Yellow and rose gold. It's the cross in my 'Before and After' image...
>>
>>    ~Steve~
>
> Beautiful work Steve!

  Thank you Janet!  :o)


> Can I have a pair of the earrings please?

    It's a possibility.  ;)


     ~Steve~


>


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: That cross, close up.
Date: 15 Jul 2007 06:10:35
Message: <rvvj93h8jbsujcl6hk5gkpaeov1f5j5ufi@4ax.com>
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:47:41 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

>
>It would be *very* cool to make my own
>> jewelry
>
> All you need is a 3' x 2' bench in a 6' space, some hand tools, propane, 
>and you're away.

If it's that easy then why isn't everyone doing it :-)
I think that you forgot to mention talent and the ability to work with your
hands. Both of which you have.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: That cross, close up.
Date: 15 Jul 2007 06:16:59
Message: <ng0k93p9rq7f2i0o422a3kcd26mgnf9v1f@4ax.com>
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 02:29:50 EDT, "Janet" <par### [at] attnet> wrote:

>Beautiful work Steve! Can I have a pair of the earrings please?

He does take commissions so be careful what you wish for :-)

Steve designed and made a fantastic opal ring for my wife, which she loves.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: St 
Subject: Re: That cross, close up.
Date: 15 Jul 2007 06:29:07
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"Stephen" <mcavoysATaolDOTcom@> wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 08:47:41 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>
>>
>>It would be *very* cool to make my own
>>> jewelry
>>
>> All you need is a 3' x 2' bench in a 6' space, some hand tools, propane,
>>and you're away.
>
> If it's that easy then why isn't everyone doing it :-)

   Actually, I think everyone IS doing it! Too many designers out there now 
that the internet is available. It's a good challenge though. :o)


> I think that you forgot to mention talent and the ability to work with 
> your
> hands. Both of which you have.

     Heh, thanks, I try... :o)

    ~Steve~



>
> Regards
> Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: That cross, close up.
Date: 15 Jul 2007 06:48:13
Message: <sa2k93l1k6spd8hngmt3pbangh3kf8qbln@4ax.com>
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 11:29:01 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

>
>   Actually, I think everyone IS doing it! Too many designers out there now 
>that the internet is available. It's a good challenge though. :o)


Designers are ten a penny. 

>
>> I think that you forgot to mention talent and the ability to work with 
>> your
>> hands. Both of which you have.
>
>     Heh, thanks, I try... :o)

:-)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: That cross, close up.
Date: 15 Jul 2007 07:35:13
Message: <469a0671$1@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> schreef in bericht news:4699d59f@news.povray.org...
> Now with a brooch, or, as some of you might call it, a pin. With this 
> image I cranked it up and used +a0.0 +am2, and it took 6.5 hours! The 
> first two images took just 30 mins. each with standard AA.
>
>

What I had not seen earlier, is that you seem to have used a (subdued) 
celtic pattern as a basis, haven't you? In the brooch it shows more.
Excellent work, btw. You are a multi-talented fellow Steve.

Thomas


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From: St 
Subject: Re: That cross, close up.
Date: 15 Jul 2007 14:00:39
Message: <469a60c7$1@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote in message 
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>
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> schreef in bericht news:4699d59f@news.povray.org...
>> Now with a brooch, or, as some of you might call it, a pin. With this 
>> image I cranked it up and used +a0.0 +am2, and it took 6.5 hours! The 
>> first two images took just 30 mins. each with standard AA.
>>
>>
>
> What I had not seen earlier, is that you seem to have used a (subdued) 
> celtic pattern as a basis, haven't you?

    Yes Thomas! :o)  In the earrings, it's a very easy and subtle 
'over-and-under' pattern signfying the celtic style. Of course, the 'Tree of 
Life' was also prevelant back then, apparently. ;)




 > In the brooch it shows more.

 Did you notice that the brooch is the earring design doubled-up? I'm sure 
you did. Getting that celtic knot (known as a 'Josephine knot'*) in the 
middle is just the top loops of the earrings interlaced with eachother - I 
raised some loop-edges, and lowered some others.


> Excellent work, btw. You are a multi-talented fellow Steve.


     Dang! You keep blushing, and now I am... Thank you.



     ~Steve~

   * It was only about 7 years ago that I learnt this name for this pattern, 
even though I'd used the pattern fairly extensively in my jewellery designs. 
The name, and the pattern, has significant meaning for me - my mother's name 
was Josephine, and that's also my daughters name too...



>
> Thomas
>


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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: That cross (attachment - 40.5kb jpg)
Date: 15 Jul 2007 18:28:34
Message: <469a9f92@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:

 >    I'm not sure if it has made a difference or not, but what else
 >    could I change or add?

Alright, I have probably spent too much time with this, when I should 
have been finishing a tutorial. I *had* to make a cool object to show 
the gold texture, after all  :)

I don't really know how good it is, and you may need to change the gold 
color (I'm slightly [very slightly] color-blind). Here it is:

#declare golden = <1.0, 0.8, 0.4>;
  pigment{rgb golden}
  finish{
   diffuse 0.3
   ambient 0.0
   specular 1
   brilliance 2
   reflection{golden/2 metallic 1}
   metallic 1
  }
  normal{
   granite scale .025  poly_wave 0.5
   accuracy 0.1 bump_size -0.25
  }

That surface normal is there just to give it a little extra something. 
Notice the "metallic" keywords. I don't think they were part of the 
POV-Ray syntax long ago, but it's good to have them now. You can also 
reflect a color vector instead of just a float.

It may be an improvement, it may not be. It's all subjective.

 > (especially since we can find our own gold up here in the Gold
 >> Country!).
 >
 >    Lucky you! Send some my way!  :o)

Well, It's hard work finding the gold, and I haven't found too much. I'm 
not out there every day though, panning the creeks and traversing
treacherous mines. I live too far up the hill, and all the placer 
deposits seem to occur below 1500-200 feet elevation. I live at 4500'+.

~Sam


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