"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> Meet the Rais Abdul ibn Abdullah...

Splendid!  I think your real gift is that while you are advancing your
technical skills (quite nicely IMHO), you never lose your sense of
character and drama.

Best Regards,
Mike C.

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>
> Apollo Maximus is extremely complex especially, as you know :-)
> Have you tried Carodan's morphs? I discovered them only after I had built
> Abdul, but I could have used them readily enough.
>
> Thomas

Some here some there. I use a prop head for the most part, but had to grab
the Apollo considering the price. it is a marvelous gift to the Poser
community. I can only hope they create a female as good.

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"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht 
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>
> What I was thinking of was the shalwar interacting with the pirihan so 
> that
> the pirihan flattens the shalwar. Also If you had a coat that had 
> stiffened
> shoulders you might want to have a different bending factor for the
> shoulders than on the main part of the cloth.

Hmm, yes, that would be nice indeed. At present, Poser only interacts 
forwards, not backwards...
About the coat, you could probably do that by using a separate mesh for the 
shoulders, and attach (constrain) the rest of the coat to them. That would 
need very careful modelling and even then I am not sure if it would work, 
though. Might be worth an experiment...

>> > A scimitar?
>> > A handbag!!!
>> Hmm... you might indeed prefer to see him with a handbag if you meet him 
>> at
>> night :-) However... I am afraid that he is not that type of guy. Much 
>> more
>> expert with the scimitar than with the handbag  ;-)
>
> Sorry Thomas, I was laughing at my own writing style. I was asking if you
> meant a scimitar instead of a sabre. The phrase "A handbag!" comes from 
> the
> same play as does this quote. And it is quite famous :-)
> To lose one parent may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks 
> like
> carelessness.

LOL!! I confess that I missed that one! I don't know the play but it sounds 
like Bernard Shaw? or Pinter? Forgive my ignorance in this.
On the other hand, the "handbag" made me look at Abdul in a different way 
and there was something disquitingly depraved in his overall demeanour, so, 
from one thing came the other...
I love that kind of word play  :-)

Thomas

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"Mike the Elder" <zer### [at] wyanorg> schreef in bericht 
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> "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
>> Meet the Rais Abdul ibn Abdullah...
>
> Splendid!  I think your real gift is that while you are advancing your
> technical skills (quite nicely IMHO), you never lose your sense of
> character and drama.
>
<blush> thank you indeed, Mike. It is something that seems to come naturally 
to me. I am not making particular efforts really, while I am totally unable 
to model a human figure from scratch (I admire those who can).

Thomas

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> >
> Some here some there. I use a prop head for the most part, but had to grab
> the Apollo considering the price. it is a marvelous gift to the Poser
> community. I can only hope they create a female as good.
>
Yes, this model is really a gift. I am far from having tried out all the 
different possibilities. Indeed, a similar female would be a revolution. I 
hope they work on it...

Thomas

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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:

>
> Hmm, yes, that would be nice indeed. At present, Poser only interacts
> forwards, not backwards...

It would be nice if it were bi-directional. But I think that we will need to
wait until quantum computers become common.

>
> LOL!! I confess that I missed that one! I don't know the play but it sounds
> like Bernard Shaw? or Pinter? Forgive my ignorance in this.



Pinter. {That is a theatre joke :-}

> On the other hand, the "handbag" made me look at Abdul in a different way
> and there was something disquitingly depraved in his overall demeanour, so,
> from one thing came the other...

Yes the camp evil one is scary. Remember Mrs. T with her handbag. :-)

> I love that kind of word play  :-)

Aye, so do I, with my little eyes.



Stephen

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"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht 
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> "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hmm, yes, that would be nice indeed. At present, Poser only interacts
>> forwards, not backwards...
>
> It would be nice if it were bi-directional. But I think that we will need 
> to
> wait until quantum computers become common.
Yes probably, because I suspect that it would dramatically increase 
processor power needs.

>
>>
>> LOL!! I confess that I missed that one! I don't know the play but it 
>> sounds
>> like Bernard Shaw? or Pinter? Forgive my ignorance in this.
>
> No, you're close though, it was Oscar Wild another Irishman. The play is
> "The importance of being Ernest". It is (pause) too (pause) trite for
> Pinter. {That is a theatre joke :-}
Oscar Wilde of course!! I should see/read that play.

>
>> On the other hand, the "handbag" made me look at Abdul in a different way
>> and there was something disquitingly depraved in his overall demeanour, 
>> so,
>> from one thing came the other...
>
> Yes the camp evil one is scary. Remember Mrs. T with her handbag. :-)
ouch, yes...!
[OT]..."nice little pussy" Berlusconi called her (literally!!!) not long ago 
in front of a student audience! I always thought that guy was weird!!!


Thomas

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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> "Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht
> news:web.46936f81dba22c50c4e49fa40@news.povray.org...
> > "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hmm, yes, that would be nice indeed. At present, Poser only interacts
> >> forwards, not backwards...
> >
> > It would be nice if it were bi-directional. But I think that we will need
> > to
> > wait until quantum computers become common.
> Yes probably, because I suspect that it would dramatically increase
> processor power needs.

Just a bit, I think :-)

> >
> >>
> >> LOL!! I confess that I missed that one! I don't know the play but it
> >> sounds
> >> like Bernard Shaw? or Pinter? Forgive my ignorance in this.
> >
> > No, you're close though, it was Oscar Wild another Irishman. The play is
> > "The importance of being Ernest". It is (pause) too (pause) trite for
> > Pinter. {That is a theatre joke :-}
> Oscar Wilde of course!! I should see/read that play.

It is a bit dated but still interesting in a mannered way. The upper class
English are so cute. :-)

> >
> >> On the other hand, the "handbag" made me look at Abdul in a different way
> >> and there was something disquitingly depraved in his overall demeanour,
> >> so,
> >> from one thing came the other...
> >
> > Yes the camp evil one is scary. Remember Mrs. T with her handbag. :-)
> ouch, yes...!
> [OT]..."nice little pussy" Berlusconi called her (literally!!!) not long ago
> in front of a student audience! I always thought that guy was weird!!!





Stephen

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"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht 
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>
> It is a bit dated but still interesting in a mannered way. The upper class
> English are so cute. :-)
Well, just for history's and literature's sake. iirc, the play was on stage 
not so long ago?

>
>
> He was just talking tough. And I bet she wasn't within earshot :-)
He certainly was. To remain in the news. Still, it's rude. Like they say 
here: "Our Lord has strange boarders"  :-)

Thomas

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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlDOTnet> wrote:
> "Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> schreef in bericht
> news:web.46939b7adba22c50c4e49fa40@news.povray.org...
> >
> > It is a bit dated but still interesting in a mannered way. The upper class
> > English are so cute. :-)
> Well, just for history's and literature's sake. iirc, the play was on stage
> not so long ago?

True, it gets put on every generation or so, just to keep it in the canon.

> >
> >
> > He was just talking tough. And I bet she wasn't within earshot :-)
> He certainly was. To remain in the news. Still, it's rude. Like they say
> here: "Our Lord has strange boarders"  :-)

Probably to fill his many mansions :-)




Stephen

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