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From: St 
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 20 Oct 2006 15:54:48
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"Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message 
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> Steve! This image is awesome! How did you model the snake's head? And the 
> texture? This is great. My only critique is the reflection near the bottom 
> of the ring... it loses some of it's metallic look... most likely due to 
> the lack of detail in the reflection... but that's minor. Great image... 
> congrats!

Heh, thank you Sam, that's nice coming from someone that I admire as a 3d 
artist. The head (and body) was modelled in Wings, and the texture for the 
scaly bits around the mouth etc., are the faces that were left after one 
smooth operation. The selected faces were then extruded normally and then 
scaled uniformally, and then the whole model was smoothed once more leaving 
the scaly look. It doesn't look too good close up, but at this sort of 
distance, you can get away with it.

   ~Steve~


>
> ~Sam
>
> St. wrote:
>>  Another ring design.
>>
>>     ~Steve~
>>
>>
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From: St 
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 20 Oct 2006 15:54:49
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"P Brewer" <pbj### [at] wowwaycom> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>> Another ring design.
>>
>>     ~Steve~
>
> Ever read any Wheel of Time books?

   I'm afraid I haven't. Who's the author?

 They feature a ring design that's
> described as a great serpent eating it's own tail. Meant to represent time
> repeating itself over and over again.

    Yes, I can understand this. I've seen this type of ring before and it's 
very Victorian* in design, although, it's really easy to see some Celtic 
Prince wearing this style of ring 2000+ years ago.


> Very cool design. What software did you use to do it? With such detail in
> the head, I would like to see some more detail on the ring itself. Perhaps
> something as simple as some minor bump mapping to give it "scales". If
> you're going for sheer realism, some wear on the ring would add to it.
> Nicks, scratches, dirt, grime.

     That's good advice, thanks. I'm currently trying for some texture on 
the body, so if I get it anywhere near right, I'll post it soonish. Glad you 
liked it.

      ~Steve~

* The Victorian Jewellers loved making their snake rings!


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 20 Oct 2006 15:54:50
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"Marc" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message 
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>> Another ring design.
>>
> Splendid!!

    Yes, my Friday evening is a happy one. Thanks Marc.  :o)

      ~Steve~



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From: Smws
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 20 Oct 2006 21:05:00
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> Another ring design.
>
>     ~Steve~

Wow! Very good model, especially the head. In fact it reminds me of some of
the better contenders from the recent ring speed modelling challenge over
at the threedy forums:
http://www.threedy.com/site/forum/showthread.php?t=46611

Good work!


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 20 Oct 2006 21:45:47
Message: <45397bcb$1@news.povray.org>
Astonishing Steve.

So I had to look up "Ourobus":

snake that continually eats itself, symbol of infinity

That is both a great design and a spectacular piece of modelling.  I 
love the scales detailing, not easy.

I'd say you've got the macro photo / hdri down to where it's routine for 
you.

I just spent several hours this afternoon, in the Metropolitan museum 
here, examining such artifacts, so I was particularily set up to 
appreciate this piece.

-Jim


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From: mine
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 20 Oct 2006 23:50:00
Message: <web.45399896c8212519638dcdbf0@news.povray.org>
WooooW! They are great, very well done.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 21 Oct 2006 03:00:37
Message: <4539c595@news.povray.org>
What can I say? This is really splendid, and splendid modelling too. It 
brings harshly home that I have still a long way to go in Wings and/or Silo!
Your technique for the scales is an ingenious one.

Thomas


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 21 Oct 2006 03:05:53
Message: <4539c6d1$1@news.povray.org>
I know, this is very secondary, but I think that the correct name is 
Ouroborus, instead of Ourobus (which last reminds me more of some kind of... 
bus... going round??? :-)  )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

Thomas


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 21 Oct 2006 08:36:52
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:45392989@news.povray.org...
>
> "P Brewer" <pbj### [at] wowwaycom> wrote in message
> news:web.45390aedc82125198af060f60@news.povray.org...
> > "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> >> Another ring design.
> >>
> >>     ~Steve~
> >
> > Ever read any Wheel of Time books?
>
>    I'm afraid I haven't. Who's the author?

Robert Jordan. Beware, the series is at 11 books so far and still going.
First book is called The Eye of the World. The first 5 were good, the series
stared going downhill after that (my opinion)

One of the power groups in the series wears rings of a snake biting its own
tail. It's a single loop though.


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From: s day
Subject: Re: Ourobus Snake
Date: 21 Oct 2006 19:05:00
Message: <web.453aa6dbc8212519bacc4fbd0@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> Another ring design.
>
>     ~Steve~

Great modelling, the snake head is excellent and the design of the ring is
really cool.. Hope you have still found time to do an IRTC entry this
round.

Sean


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