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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: What do you think of this guy?
Date: 8 Sep 2006 03:54:06
Message: <4501219e$1@news.povray.org>
s.day wrote:
> The skin/lip texture looks really good to me I guess it is the slightly red
> nose that makes him look drunk, but I think this adds to the realism.

   Yes, I think I used too much gamma correction on the image_map, and 
that makes the reddish nose more accused.

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Jaime


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: What do you think of this guy?
Date: 8 Sep 2006 04:03:08
Message: <450123bc@news.povray.org>
Thomas de Groot wrote:
> It is not somebody you would pass unnoticed in the streets! An example from 
> Lombroso's cabinet? 

   Lombroso? ... (goggling) ... ah! Uh... yes, could be.


 > I would say that this is the first evidence for
> Neanderthal Man still living in our society.

   Er... at least here is Spain, it's not so rare to find 
neardenthal-looking homosapiens... :)

> Very well done, Jaime. The skin texture looks good, a little too reddish 
> perhaps...

   Yes... I used too much gamma correction on the skin photo.

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Jaime


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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: What do you think of this guy?
Date: 8 Sep 2006 05:30:00
Message: <web.45013734d373f486731f01d10@news.povray.org>
Does anybody else think he looks a little like Christopher Ecclestone (the
9th Doctor Who)? Uglified, of course...

:)


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: What do you think of this guy?
Date: 8 Sep 2006 10:10:49
Message: <450179e9$1@news.povray.org>
"Bill Pragnell" <bil### [at] hotmailcom> schreef in bericht 
news:web.45013734d373f486731f01d10@news.povray.org...
> Does anybody else think he looks a little like Christopher Ecclestone (the
> 9th Doctor Who)? Uglified, of course...
>

Now that you mention it.... could be family!

Thomas


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From: Orchid XP v3
Subject: Re: What do you think of this guy?
Date: 8 Sep 2006 14:23:34
Message: <4501b526@news.povray.org>
>> Self portrate?
> 
> No, or at least not consciously... I must admit I resemble a bit this 
> guy, except for the big nose. :)

Freud? ;-)


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: What do you think of this guy?
Date: 8 Sep 2006 18:47:17
Message: <4501f2f5$1@news.povray.org>
Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:
> I've resumed my experiments with skin textures. Here I just used a
> photographic texture I found on the net. It is a sample from www.3d.sk,
> which sells unfolded scans and reference photos for 3D artists. There is
> no media SSS, but I created a material_map based on the same texture to
> give different finishes to the different parts of the face (it's just a
> BW version slightly tweaked with the Gimp).
> 
> P.S.: Yes, I know my organic modeling skills suck: that nose is really 
> ugly!
> 
> -- 
> Jaime
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
Impressive.  The problem with the nose is just the one unsmoothed ridge 
which I would guess can be fixed with a little more effort.  The truly 
difficult thing, the mouth, is outstanding, very sensitively modelled. 
The eye sockets another tough area are also good, a bit stylized and 
severe, but not out of bounds.  Main problem is the eyeballs and I just 
don't know what to say there exactly.  Keep in mind, I guess, that a 
classical painter learning academic studio methods would have been 
taught to leave the white of the cornea the same color as the flesh.


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: What do you think of this guy?
Date: 9 Sep 2006 07:25:06
Message: <4502a492$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v3 wrote:
>>> Self portrate?
>>
>> No, or at least not consciously... I must admit I resemble a bit this 
>> guy, except for the big nose. :)
> 
> Freud? ;-)

   Well, after all, I modeled the face without a concrete reference, so 
I suppose the stereotypes on my mind obtained the resulting face. And as 
my face is the one I see everyday at the mirror, it must have been the 
most strong influence.

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Jaime


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: What do you think of this guy?
Date: 9 Sep 2006 07:38:55
Message: <4502a7cf$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
> Impressive.  The problem with the nose is just the one unsmoothed ridge 
> which I would guess can be fixed with a little more effort.  

   Yes, but it was also too wide. I corrected both things and some other 
details with SharpConstruct (sharp3d.sourceforge.net), a nice tool for 
mesh-sculpting. I find it too difficult to model an entire head with it, 
but as it imports .obj files, it's useful to retouch objects done with 
other apps, like Wings3D in this case.

> the mouth, is outstanding, very sensitively modelled. 

   :) I'm sorry, but that's only a lucky effect of the photographic 
image_map: the mouth geometry is really ugly. What's really incredible 
is how a photo mapped carefully can change the look of the real geometry.

> The eye sockets another tough area are also good, a bit stylized and 
> severe, but not out of bounds.  Main problem is the eyeballs and I just 
> don't know what to say there exactly.  Keep in mind, I guess, that a 
> classical painter learning academic studio methods would have been 
> taught to leave the white of the cornea the same color as the flesh.

   That's a very good advice: they where pure white! Thanks...

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Jaime


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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: What do you think of this guy? (Now with HDRI)
Date: 9 Sep 2006 07:42:09
Message: <4502a891@news.povray.org>
Still no SSS, but I've done a test with HDRI (kitchen_probe) and 
corrected some details:


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From: stm31415
Subject: Re: What do you think of this guy? (Now with HDRI)
Date: 9 Sep 2006 12:20:01
Message: <web.4502e8b685b6d009cf1900cc0@news.povray.org>
The texture is fantastic. I am a little worried for his health, however: I
believe his right eyeball is sinking down and out of its socket.

-s
5TF!


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