"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:4417198c@news.povray.org...
> I've added a few things...
>
>    ~Steve~
>
>

There are 2 main things that stand out to me as needing work, the glass
material and the table and wall texture or geometry.

the food is impressively modelled, though as I look closer the lemon peel
has black spots on it. maybe the normal is too deep? or maybe it just needs
a little radiosity with normals on to smooth it out.

keep it comming

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> I've added a few things...
Aren't you still missing the greasy spoon? :)
DLM

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High!

St. wrote:
> I've added a few things...
> 
>   ~Steve~

The peas as well as the fried fish still look pretty much like 
plastic... I would like to make the peas less shiny and the fish should 
have a more orange hue. Also the chips (we here in Continental Europe 
call them "pommes frites") currently look like fresh from cold storage - 
they should be of a warm yellow, even a slightly brownish orange along 
the edges!

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar

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"Bob Hughes" <omniverse@charter%net> wrote in message 
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> Wow, hey Steve, first I've seen of this. You've rendered up a nice plate 
> of food there. I love F&C's, too! Don't like ketchup on or even near my 
> fish though.

     Thanks Bob. Yes, I'm thinking of moving the ketchup to the far-side of 
the peas...  ;o)

>
> There's a photo effect appearance to the food, to my eyes. Highspeed color 
> film, maybe, granularity.

There 'are' a few normals in that image. Maybe that's it?


 Makes for an interesting look. And I could almost
> swear I see a little steam in the center. My LCD display isn't the best.

   Your LCD is fine, you do see steam in the form of 2 very thin spirals 
using  T_Grnt19a  scale 50 with an ambient of 1. Maybe I should add more 
spirals for the steam effect?


   ~Steve~


>
> Bob H
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"Stefan Viljoen polard.com>" <spamnot@<removethis> wrote in message 
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> St. spake:
>
>> I've added a few things...

> Looks good - how about maybe playing with the peas a bit? At the moment 
> they
> look just a bit too shiny

  Well, from memory, ordinary garden peas look the same as in my image, 
tending to be a younger pea, they have a younger skin...


> and "perfect" to be peas. No idea how you might
> do it, but make one or two a bit flatter, with creases in them or such.
> Know what I mean? I've never eaten peas that look that perfect... maybe
> less shine on them as well?

    Yes, I see where you are coming from with this. I'll give it a go.


>
> All in all a good scene, there's lots of potential here to make something
> really nice! The chips are isosurfs?

    Thanks! :o)

    No, the chips are Wings models.

     ~Steve~


>
> Regards
> -- 
> Stefan Viljoen
> Software Support Technician / Programmer
> Polar Design Solutions
>
>

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"Ross" <rli### [at] everestkcnet> wrote in message 
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> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:4417198c@news.povray.org...
>> I've added a few things...
>>
>>    ~Steve~
>>
>>
>
> There are 2 main things that stand out to me as needing work, the glass
> material and the table and wall texture or geometry.


    There are two main things to be sorted out:

     The glass and the wall geometry...  ;)


>
> the food is impressively modelled, though as I look closer the lemon peel
> has black spots on it. maybe the normal is too deep? or maybe it just 
> needs
> a little radiosity with normals on to smooth it out.

   That will probably work, but Rad isn't my strong point...   :o/



>
> keep it comming


   Thanks, I will...  :o)


       ~Steve~


>
>

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> High!
>
> St. wrote:
>> I've added a few things...


> The peas as well as the fried fish still look pretty much like plastic... 
> I would like to make the peas less shiny and the fish should have a more 
> orange hue. Also the chips (we here in Continental Europe call them 
> "pommes frites") currently look like fresh from cold storage - they should 
> be of a warm yellow, even a slightly brownish orange along the edges!

      Thank You!  I will give that a try...


>
> See you in Khyberspace!

        Is there such a thing.... ?

      ~Steve~



>
> Yadgar

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"DLM" <mae### [at] combumbiumdedu> wrote in message 
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>> I've added a few things...
> Aren't you still missing the greasy spoon? :)

   There's nothing like a Double CheeseBurger @ 3:am in the morning...  :o)

     ~Steve~




> DLM
>
>

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High!

St. wrote:
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>> See you in Khyberspace!
> 
> 
>        Is there such a thing.... ?

Yes... it's Electric Afghanistan, its 3D section (there also might be a 
text-based adaption within a MUD in the more distant future, written in 
a C-like language called "LPC") could be also called "PoVghanistan" - 
but we'll yet have to wait some years for its full implementation... 
currently I'm fiddling around with terrain modeling, heightfield/mesh 
smoothing (real smoothing, not just modifying normals or applying a blur 
to the underlying bitmap - any idea how to do it?) and conversion of 
geodetic into geographic coordinates... working myself into the "Black 
Art" contour line interpolation software to get at least a full-fledged 
heightfield/mesh of the Kabul area!

See you in Khyberspace!

Yadgar

Now playing: The Seventh Stranger, live 1984 (Duran Duran)

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:44186fa1@news.povray.org...
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> news:44185d70$1@news.povray.org...
>> High!
>>
>> St. wrote:
>>> I've added a few things...
>
>
>> The peas as well as the fried fish still look pretty much like plastic... 
>> I would like to make the peas less shiny and the fish should have a more 
>> orange hue. Also the chips (we here in Continental Europe call them 
>> "pommes frites") currently look like fresh from cold storage - they 
>> should be of a warm yellow, even a slightly brownish orange along the 
>> edges!

For those of you who may not have encountered the real thing, these 
reference images may help.
http://www.tiedhouse.com/menu/foodpics/fishchips.jpg
here the fish is perhaps overdone - but the chips look good

http://www.uknet.net/showcase/BritishFood/fish_chips1.sized.jpg
note the heaped, washed out, mushed up (rather than raw) peas.
note the golden crisp finish on the deep fry. yum.
DLM

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