"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:43f9f513@news.povray.org...
> Phew! That was a long 2 hours!  ;)
>
> Ok, I've implemented Lance' deep rich blue as the background - not too sure
> about it <snip>

Now that I see it, neither am I... heh :S

I actually quite like the neutral colours of the surface material from the last
one, and the neutral colours of the flames - maybe the red is a little
overpowering?

Hmm... *ponders*

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au

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"Orchid XP v2" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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>I like it.

  Thanks. And yours is coming along nicely too.

   ~Steve~

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"Stefan Viljoen polard.com>" <spamnot@<removethis> wrote in message 
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> St. spake:
>
>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>>
>>    ~Steve~
>
> Nice, a unique variation. Love the textures, especially the lower part 
> near
> the table.

   Thanks Stefan! Not sure what you mean by 'table' though, as it's really a 
mantle over a fireplace.

    ~Steve~


> -- 
> Stefan Viljoen
> Software Support Technician / Programmer
> Polar Design Solutions
>
>

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"somebody" <x### [at] ycom> wrote in message news:43f9a6a1$1@news.povray.org...
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:43f8cf69@news.povray.org...
>
>> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
> Nice, but like others, I think the background texture is, well, not the
> greatest.

   :op   ;)  Thanks for the 'nice'.

Also, I'm not crazy about the marble texture either (POV materials
> are so overused and also are not the best).

  Yes, I picked the one closest to our actual fireplace tiles here. I've 
kept them as the fireplace surround, but as you'll see I've changed the 
mantle to wood. I think it gives a nice contrast.


The slant is also distracting
> for me,

  Sorted. I didn't like it too.

it would not be so bad if at least one edge of the shelf/mantle were
> visible. Finally, the transition from wall to mantle needs work. The piece
> is pretty good, but I don't like the setting too much overall. Now, if you
> placed it on a coffee table in front of the mantle and have the fire
> reflecting faintly off of it, and make it glossier and melting...

  It's funny that you said that. This image started off with a vision of an 
old guy sat in an armchair in front of his open coal fire with his feet up 
on a cracket and one arm and hand showing holding a freezing cold glass of 
water, (so in effect, all you would see is his legs and slippers, and to the 
right, his arm and hand holding the glass - kind of like this  \ //  ). 
Well, I started with the mantle-piece, and then I was wondering what to put 
on the mantle, so I hit the 'net and stumbled on those glass frosted 
ornaments - and that was it for now, I haven't bothered with the other idea, 
but may well do if time permits.

   Thanks for the suggestions.

     ~Steve~


>
>

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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:43f9f513@news.povray.org...

 > as per nobody's suggestion, 

  OOPS!! Not 'nobody's' suggestion!! *SOMEBODY*  :)

   Sorry somebody.

    ~Steve~

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Lance Birch wrote:
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:43f9f513@news.povray.org...
> 
>>Phew! That was a long 2 hours!  ;)
>>
>>Ok, I've implemented Lance' deep rich blue as the background - not too sure
>>about it <snip>
> 
> 
> Now that I see it, neither am I... heh :S
> 
> I actually quite like the neutral colours of the surface material from the last
> one, and the neutral colours of the flames - maybe the red is a little
> overpowering?
> 
> Hmm... *ponders*
> 


Well I'm sure and I'm sure it's a great image.

Maybe room for some fine tuning but basucally I think it is on track.

I particularily like the lighter, refracted blue in the ice/glass above 
the "flames"

I also think that the rich wood color makes and important contribution. 
  The color scheme is basically the three "primaries" red/blue/yellow. 
The difficult place is perhaps the grey area under the mantel but the 
way the picture crops right along the line of the tiles saves it.

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I'd buy one of those to put on *my* fireplace! :-)

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I like it so far, but I'll be a little critical for you:

1) A shinier, more reflectier, brassier texture on the dragons (if you
like...)

2) The water drops should not be pointed at the top, but rather be
elliptical (pointy drops is something we all draw as kids, but doesn't
exist in reality).  Also, have the water pool extend around the edge of the
mantle and the drops forming below.  As it is right now, the drops look like
they are dropping off the top or side of the mantle which doesn't look
right.


-tgq

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St. spake:

> Phew! That was a long 2 hours!  ;)

2 hours is long for a rendering? I thought a 1000 is long... :)
 
> Ok, I've implemented Lance' deep rich blue as the background - not too
> sure about it, but would appreciate other's thoughts.

The first image was a great image, now this is a fab image! It looks very
alien to me, both warm and inviting and glowing and ominous - very well
done.

-- 
Stefan Viljoen
Software Support Technician / Programmer
Polar Design Solutions

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Among other things, St. saw fit to write:

>   It's funny that you said that. This image started off with a vision of
>   an
> old guy sat in an armchair in front of his open coal fire with his feet up
> on a cracket and one arm and hand showing holding a freezing cold glass of
> water, (so in effect, all you would see is his legs and slippers, and to
> the
> right, his arm and hand holding the glass - kind of like this  \ //  ).

... then dropping the glass and muttering "Rosebud"?

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