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From: Daniel Hulme
Subject: Re: What on earth(2)...? [340kB]
Date: 7 Aug 2005 05:21:20
Message: <20050807102120.26348b71@dh286.pem.cam.ac.uk>
> OK, first person to figure out *what on earth* I've got POV-Ray to 
> render here will get... uh... my respect.  ;-)
> 
> Perhaps not as difficult as Andrew's, but it was more or less the
> reaction of some of my collegues when I put this up on a poster
> session in a scientific conference (biomedical engineering and
> medical physics). Well, it was a *poster* session, wasn't it?
> Never had so much questions about a poster before. I normally
> try to be as clear as possible.

The bits of string tied round everything seem to be isotherms or
something similar. Have the flask things been heated and then inserted
into a bowl of water?

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: What on earth(2)...? [340kB]
Date: 7 Aug 2005 05:51:43
Message: <42F5D922.1080807@hotmail.com>
Daniel Hulme wrote:
>>OK, first person to figure out *what on earth* I've got POV-Ray to 
>>render here will get... uh... my respect.  ;-)
>>
>>Perhaps not as difficult as Andrew's, but it was more or less the
>>reaction of some of my collegues when I put this up on a poster
>>session in a scientific conference (biomedical engineering and
>>medical physics). Well, it was a *poster* session, wasn't it?
>>Never had so much questions about a poster before. I normally
>>try to be as clear as possible.
> 
> 
> The bits of string tied round everything seem to be isotherms or
> something similar. Have the flask things been heated and then inserted
> into a bowl of water?
> 
No, you, Stefan, and Thomas have missed the 'Medical' context.
As we are all regulars in off-topic, I though this one would
have been easy.


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From: Daniel Hulme
Subject: Re: What on earth(2)...? [340kB]
Date: 7 Aug 2005 06:01:16
Message: <20050807110117.5b2720ad@dh286.pem.cam.ac.uk>
> > The bits of string tied round everything seem to be isotherms or
> > something similar. Have the flask things been heated and then
> > inserted into a bowl of water?

> No, you, Stefan, and Thomas have missed the 'Medical' context.
But am I along the right lines? They are iso-somethings, right?

> As we are all regulars in off-topic, I though this one would
> have been easy.
It's a graph of civilian casualties in Iraq! Or a prop from Thief. Or it
depicts the plot holes in films. Ah, I give up.

-- 
Stop the infinite loop, I want to get off!     http://surreal.istic.org/
Paraphernalia/Never hides your broken bones,/ And I don't know why you'd
want to try:/ It's plain to see you're on your own.        -- Paul Simon
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From: Jellby
Subject: Re: What on earth(2)...? [340kB]
Date: 7 Aug 2005 06:40:05
Message: <7m1hs2-j4m.ln1@badulaque.unex.es>
Among other things, Daniel Hulme saw fit to write:

> The bits of string tied round everything seem to be isotherms or
> something similar. Have the flask things been heated and then inserted
> into a bowl of water?

Yes, but... a knot?

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From: Stephen McAvoy
Subject: Re: What on earth(2)...? [340kB]
Date: 7 Aug 2005 07:22:53
Message: <rerbf1to0elt74rnpmqtq1u18lsg3184p8@4ax.com>
On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 11:49:22 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom>
wrote:

>No, you, Stefan, and Thomas have missed the 'Medical' context.
>As we are all regulars in off-topic, I though this one would
>have been easy.

The Association for Computational Linguistics is taking the p*ss :-)


Regards
        Stephen


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: What on earth(2)...? [340kB]
Date: 7 Aug 2005 09:10:28
Message: <42F607B7.2070904@hotmail.com>
Daniel Hulme wrote:
>>>The bits of string tied round everything seem to be isotherms or
>>>something similar. Have the flask things been heated and then
>>>inserted into a bowl of water?
> 
> 
>>No, you, Stefan, and Thomas have missed the 'Medical' context.
> 
> But am I along the right lines? They are iso-somethings, right?
Yes they are
> 
>>As we are all regulars in off-topic, I though this one would
>>have been easy.
> 
> It's a graph of civilian casualties in Iraq! Or a prop from Thief. Or it
> depicts the plot holes in films. Ah, I give up.
>


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: What on earth(2)...? [340kB]
Date: 7 Aug 2005 09:24:53
Message: <42F60B18.8050308@hotmail.com>
Jellby wrote:
> Among other things, Daniel Hulme saw fit to write:
> 
> 
>>The bits of string tied round everything seem to be isotherms or
>>something similar. Have the flask things been heated and then inserted
>>into a bowl of water?
> 
> 
> Yes, but... a knot?
> 
A bit of an artistic licence ;)

Yet with some serious background. Most people use iso-thingies
because everybody else uses them. A knot surprises them enough
to start a discussion on the limitations of this representation.

This image is a (small) figure in a paper that is more or less
accepted for publication now, without the knot. Perhaps we try
to get it on the cover with.


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: What on earth(2)...? [340kB]
Date: 8 Aug 2005 04:58:21
Message: <42f71ead$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> Daniel Hulme wrote:
> 
>>> OK, first person to figure out *what on earth* I've got POV-Ray to 
>>> render here will get... uh... my respect.  ;-)
>>>
>>> Perhaps not as difficult as Andrew's, but it was more or less the
>>> reaction of some of my collegues when I put this up on a poster
>>> session in a scientific conference (biomedical engineering and
>>> medical physics). Well, it was a *poster* session, wasn't it?
>>> Never had so much questions about a poster before. I normally
>>> try to be as clear as possible.
>>
>>
>>
>> The bits of string tied round everything seem to be isotherms or
>> something similar. Have the flask things been heated and then inserted
>> into a bowl of water?
>>
> No, you, Stefan, and Thomas have missed the 'Medical' context.
> As we are all regulars in off-topic, I though this one would
> have been easy.

Well I did mention cellular machinery which is incorrect but does have a 
"medical" context.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: What on earth(2)...? [340kB]
Date: 16 Aug 2005 15:27:51
Message: <43023DA0.5000907@hotmail.com>
It is of course a representation of the activation sequence in one
(special) heart. We recorded 98 leads from the outside and simultaneous
with a 64 channel balloon in the left ventricle and 32 electrodes in the
right. Lines are isochrones (points with identical time) 10 ms apart.
The problem was trying to put all information in one figure. This
is what I came up with. The knot is a bit of artistic license.
Mainly to prove to myself that I could do it. Pathetic isn't it?


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From: Daniel Hulme
Subject: Re: What on earth(2)...? [340kB]
Date: 16 Aug 2005 15:41:47
Message: <20050816204148.3edf08d0@dh286.pem.cam.ac.uk>
> It is of course a representation of the activation sequence in one
> (special) heart.
Ah, of course. That's very interesting.

> Pathetic isn't it?
No, I thought the knot was quite a nice piece of fun.

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