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From: =Bob=
Subject: Re: possible bug?
Date: 28 Nov 2004 13:16:49
Message: <41aa1611@news.povray.org>
"Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote in message
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: the following code gives different results in POV3.6 than in POV3.5 (I tried
: to minimalize the code :))

I tried this under Pov 3.6.1 and 3.5 and there's little or no
difference (win98).
=Bob=


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: possible bug?
Date: 28 Nov 2004 13:25:31
Message: <41aa181b$1@news.povray.org>
"Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde> schreef in bericht
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> In article <41aa0748@news.povray.org> , "Zeger Knaepen"
> <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote:
>
> > Either you're a very good actor, or you really are a very unpleasant
man.
> <snip>
> > Anyway, if you don't have anything usefull to say, then why even take
the
> > time to hit the reply-button?  Do you like to get on people's nerves ?
>
> What exactly did I do to you that you insult me?

It's not just what you did to me, but your general behaviour against other
people, including me. It's your tone that's very unfriendly.  Your use of
punctuation (like the use of three questionmarks in "(why using x for a
color???)", which makes it look like you think only retarded people use 'x'
inside a color-definition, when 'x' just types about three times faster than
'red' and gives exactly the same results and 'a more minimal code' (which
was meant to be a joke, but you didn't seem to get it)), your choice of
words and your complete lack of humour (or smileys... it looks like you're
someone who never laughs...  At least I can't imagine you laughing or even
smiling).
There's nothing wrong with *what* you say, just with *how* you say it.  And
I know I'm not the only one who thinks so.

Come to think of it... the way I'm saying things, can use some improvement
too, or did anyone actually understand the nested brackets in the paragraph
above without reading it more than once? :)

> > This is no bug-report, otherwise I would have posted it in
povray.bugreports
>
> Then you obviously never read the bug reporting guidelines, because that
> would have been the wrong way to go.  Please read:

That's right, I haven't...

> Newsgroups: povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions
> Subject: bug reporting
> From: Alan Kong <ako### [at] povrayWWWSPAMCOMorg>
> Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 20:32:49 -0700
> Message-ID: <fpupiu02i1198jbb38i3o06hv6is1a3uar@4ax.com>
> Xref: news.povray.org povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions:50

...but I have now, but apparently the way it should be done is the way I
thought it should be done, so again: this was never meant to be a
bug-report, just a question: did I miss something, or might this be a bug?


pff, maybe I shouldn't have put the word "bug" in the subject...

cu
-- 
ZK AKA Gaeriel
http://www.povplace.be.tf
"He can breathe OK, long as nobody unplugs him"


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: possible bug?
Date: 28 Nov 2004 13:27:07
Message: <41aa187b$1@news.povray.org>
"=Bob=" <robertUNDERSCOREdobbinsATmailDOTtdsDOTnet> schreef in bericht
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> "Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote in message
news:41a9fb21@news.povray.org...
> : the following code gives different results in POV3.6 than in POV3.5 (I
tried
> : to minimalize the code :))
>
> I tried this under Pov 3.6.1 and 3.5 and there's little or no
> difference (win98).

strange...  I'll try it later today on my WinXP-computer, now first I'm
going to check if I really used identical settings.

cu!
-- 
ZK AKA Gaeriel
http://www.povplace.be.tf
"I put the grrrr in swinger, baby!!"


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From: =Bob=
Subject: Re: possible bug?
Date: 28 Nov 2004 13:30:08
Message: <41aa1930@news.povray.org>
"Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote in message
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: > I tried this under Pov 3.6.1 and 3.5 and there's little or no
: > difference (win98).
:
: strange...  I'll try it later today on my WinXP-computer, now first I'm
: going to check if I really used identical settings.

The difference might be 3.6.1 vs. 3.6
=Bob=


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: possible bug?
Date: 28 Nov 2004 13:33:29
Message: <41aa19f9$1@news.povray.org>
"=Bob=" <robertUNDERSCOREdobbinsATmailDOTtdsDOTnet> schreef in bericht
news:41aa1930@news.povray.org...
> "Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote in message
news:41aa187b$1@news.povray.org...
>
> : > I tried this under Pov 3.6.1 and 3.5 and there's little or no
> : > difference (win98).
> :
> : strange...  I'll try it later today on my WinXP-computer, now first I'm
> : going to check if I really used identical settings.
>
> The difference might be 3.6.1 vs. 3.6

hmm, I have 3.6.1 apparently

I checked my settings, they were identical and did give those different
results, but when I removed +ua from my settings, 3.5 and 3.6 gave the same
result.

weirdness! :)

cu!
-- 
ZK AKA Gaeriel
http://www.povplace.be.tf
"I plan to live forever! ... or die trying..."


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From: =Bob=
Subject: Re: possible bug?
Date: 28 Nov 2004 13:39:47
Message: <41aa1b73$1@news.povray.org>
"Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote in message
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: hmm, I have 3.6.1 apparently
:
: I checked my settings, they were identical and did give those different
: results, but when I removed +ua from my settings, 3.5 and 3.6 gave the same
: result.
: weirdness! :)

I get the same result using that setting. You should
be sure to identify your settings and the full version
next time. I know I always miss something too, so
don't take that suggestion harshly. Just trying to
help. Have a great day!
=Bob=


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: possible bug?
Date: 28 Nov 2004 13:52:37
Message: <41aa1e75$1@news.povray.org>
"=Bob=" <robertUNDERSCOREdobbinsATmailDOTtdsDOTnet> schreef in bericht
news:41aa1b73$1@news.povray.org...
> "Zeger Knaepen" <zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe> wrote in message
news:41aa19f9$1@news.povray.org...
>
> : hmm, I have 3.6.1 apparently
> :
> : I checked my settings, they were identical and did give those different
> : results, but when I removed +ua from my settings, 3.5 and 3.6 gave the
same
> : result.
> : weirdness! :)
>
> I get the same result using that setting.

ok, anybody else?  A non-windows user if possible? :)

> You should
> be sure to identify your settings and the full version
> next time. I know I always miss something too, so
> don't take that suggestion harshly.

Don't worry, I don't :)  I just thought, since I used exactly the same
settings, it doesn't matter what the settings are.  Guess I was wrong :-/
sorry for that

Anyway, the settings I used, apart from the default settings: +fn +ua +sp8
+ep4, using POV-Ray for windows v3.5 and V3.6.1

> Just trying to
> help. Have a great day!

you helped!

cu!
-- 
ZK AKA Gaeriel
http://www.povplace.be.tf
"Ah ha... The worst movie you ever saw? Well, my next one will be even
better! Hello?..."


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From: Florian Brucker
Subject: Re: possible bug?
Date: 28 Nov 2004 14:36:25
Message: <41aa28b9@news.povray.org>
> ok, anybody else?  A non-windows user if possible? :)

I get pretty identical images for 3.5, 3.6 and 3.6.1 when using the 
default settings.

Using +UA, however, I get the effect you describe, i.e. the highlight in 
3.6 and 3.6.1 looks different.

System: Gentoo Linux 2.4.25, Official POV compiles


HTH,
Florian
-- 
camera{look_at-y*10location<8,-3,-8>*10}#local a=0;#while(a<999)sphere{
#local _=.01*a-4.99;#local p=a*.01-5;#local c=.01*a-4.995;<sin(p*pi)*5p
*10pow(p,5)*.01>sin(c*c*c*.1)+1pigment{rgb 3}}#local a=a+1;#end
/******** http://www.torfbold.com ******** http://www.imp.org ********/


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From: Rafal 'Raf256' Maj
Subject: Re: possible bug?
Date: 29 Nov 2004 05:03:30
Message: <Xns95B070C67426Araf256com@203.29.75.35>
zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe news:41aa181b$1@news.povray.org

> It's not just what you did to me, but your general behaviour against
> other people, including me. It's your tone that's very unfriendly. 
> Your use of 
> 

Not just ;)  But anyway Thorsten's remarks are very helpfull usualy AFAIK.

-- 
http://www.raf256.com/3d/
Rafal Maj 'Raf256', home page - http://www.raf256.com/me/
Computer Graphics


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From: Zeger Knaepen
Subject: Re: possible bug?
Date: 29 Nov 2004 08:21:43
Message: <41ab2267$1@news.povray.org>
"Rafal 'Raf256' Maj" <spa### [at] raf256com> wrote in message
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> zeg### [at] studentkuleuvenacbe news:41aa181b$1@news.povray.org
>
> > It's not just what you did to me, but your general behaviour against
> > other people, including me. It's your tone that's very unfriendly.
> > Your use of
> >
>
> Not just ;)  But anyway Thorsten's remarks are very helpfull usualy AFAIK.

Oh, yes, most of the time he is helpful, but, well, not always very friendly :-/

Anyway, Thorsten, if I insulted you, I'm sorry, I was a little on the edge :-/

cu!
--
camera{location-z*3}#macro G(b,e)b+(e-b)*(C/50)#end#macro L(b,e,k,l)#local C=0
;#while(C<50)sphere{G(b,e),.1pigment{rgb G(k,l)}finish{ambient 1}}#local C=C+1
;#end#end L(y-x,y,x,x+y)L(y,-x-y,x+y,y)L(-x-y,-y,y,y+z)L(-y,y,y+z,x+y)L(0,x+y,
<.5,1,.5>,x)L(0,x-y,<.5,1,.5>,x)               // ZK http://www.povplace.be.tf


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