Mick Hazelgrove wrote:

> Impressive
> 

Thanks.  This could take me places my paintings never did.

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Skip Talbot wrote:

> excellent
> 
> 
Thanks!

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Nice one Jim! That's excellent Wings modelling. Nice textures too.
Now, where's the equally nice fishnetted legs?  ;)

   ~Steve~

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Jim Charter wrote:
> Something a little easier.  First test on modelling, texturing, and 
> lighting.  Modelled in Wings, prodcedural texture.

   That's incredibly professional looking... are you a shoe modelist, or 
it is a hobby only? I know some professionals here who will kill to have 
such skills.

   About the composition, I don't find anything wrong. But I never 
learned "norms of good composition"...

--
Jaime

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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message
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> If you trace the horizon line of the ground plane (cylinder actually),
> you come to a point where it, the far inside edge of the heel of the
> farther shoe, and the far top egde of the throat of the near shoe all
> intersect at the same point.  According to the norms of good composition
> this is a no no.  But I am not sure whether it adds or detracts to this
> picture or just doesn't matter.  Any opinions?

I think i see what you mean, and I think i see why it could detract. post a
variation and let us judge? It might be better to actually see most of the
heal of the back shoe. how are shoes normally displayed, at angles to each
other instead of parallel?

i'm no art theorist, but i'm always interested in composition theories. some
of the compositional ideas artists used in classical painting is pretty
cool.

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> LOL.  Well I *am* a fetishist, but *not* a cross-dresser.  Does your
> wife have a designer/brand she likes?  Via Spiga designs I like,
obviously.

Mostly local brands, names you'll hardly recognize because I'm all way down
in Brazil. :-)
Anyway, the known brands are way too expensive here for us to afford. :-D

Cheers!

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Jaime Vives Piqueres wrote:

> 
>   That's incredibly professional looking... are you a shoe modelist, or 
> it is a hobby only? I know some professionals here who will kill to have 
> such skills.
> 


Thanks for the praises!  Hobbyist only, though if I could earn a living 
making cg models of shoes I would be a happy individual. This is really 
my first full fledged attempt at modelling shoes in mesh.  There were 
some very early attempts in sPatch when I first discovered POVRay 
(making a glass slipper was an obvious idea to try), but it was beyond 
my patience and skill at the time.  Couple years ago I got involved 
briefly with Maya and did some models of generic shoes using nurbs. 
They can be seen in my entry for Worlds Within Worlds.  That entry also 
has a shoe modelled entirely using POV generated splines ( the ruby 
slippers ).  I also played with that POV-spline technique in modelling 
shoes for abortive entries for "Gardens" and "Fantasy".  I had intended 
to have topiaries of shoes in the one and, you guessed it, a crystal 
glass slipper in the other. My current interest in the subject was 
revived when I needed a break from my "Primates Series" efforts.

Most of the shaping is much easier in polygon mesh.  The real power came 
with a combined use of the Wings' Extract, Extrude, and Intrude 
commands.  The main drawback is the inability to create spline-curved 
edges but clever use of the Bevel command can be used to improvised this.

Maybe I will make a short tutorial.  Shaping a shoe is really not so 
difficult and it would demonstrate some of the power of Wings tools

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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message
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Incredible. Best picture on this group in a good while. The finish looks
perfect, very similar to the finish on the brand new black leather boots
I've got here in front of me.

I think there's always going to be some issues with hard lines behind
thin objects like these shoes. Thinking about it, I suppose that's why
family portrait backgrounds are always crowded bushes and trees rather
that highways. None of that matters, though. The image smokes, and is
professional advertisement quality at least.

 -Shay

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Shay wrote:
> "Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msncom> wrote in message
> news:40ac18fc@news.povray.org...
> 
> Incredible. Best picture on this group in a good while. The finish looks
> perfect, very similar to the finish on the brand new black leather boots
> I've got here in front of me.
> 
> I think there's always going to be some issues with hard lines behind
> thin objects like these shoes. Thinking about it, I suppose that's why
> family portrait backgrounds are always crowded bushes and trees rather
> that highways. None of that matters, though. The image smokes, and is
> professional advertisement quality at least.
> 


Thanks Shay.  The boost comes at a time when I can really use it.

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