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From: Dan P
Subject: Re: Dark, dank and dreary
Date: 15 May 2004 16:39:13
Message: <40a67ff1$1@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw wrote:
> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
> 
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
> 
> Comments, suggestions?

Wow! Awesome. A little more contrast would add some interest.
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From: Samuel Benge
Subject: Re: Dark, dank and dreary
Date: 15 May 2004 18:30:11
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Gail Shaw wrote:

> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
> 
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
> 
> Comments, suggestions?
> 
> Gail

Somebody else mentioned Lord of the Rings, but I know which part this is 
from: it's when Frodo, Sam and Gollum are passing over the swamp, and 
floating below the water's surface are ghastly apparitions of the long 
deceased. Their pale faces staring blankly up to the surface.... I've 
been thinking for some time the idea must be rendered in POV somehow. 
Maybe that's what the scene needs.... a few corpses :)

-Sam Benge


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From: GreyBeard
Subject: Re: Dark, dank and dreary
Date: 15 May 2004 18:43:28
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"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsacom> wrote in message
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> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other
than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
>
> Comments, suggestions?

Beautiful!  As one that's fascinated by swamps, this is one of the best
representations I've seen.  The only comment, and purely my own, a thin
ground haze, not enough to obscure the horizon, but to make the distant
objects "ghosted".

Swamps are places of incredible life, rather than areas of decay.


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From: Thomas de Groot
Subject: Re: Dark, dank and dreary
Date: 16 May 2004 03:03:40
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"Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsacom> schreef in bericht
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> And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
>
> I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other
than
> that,
> I'm not sure what to do with this
>
> Comments, suggestions?
>
So many comments already, that I am afraid to repeat. Great image with
excellent atmosphere. In the far background I would place the silhouette of
a forest. Swamps are often restricted in size (at least the deep parts), and
surrounded by forested highs. A little ground fog, also. A lone bird
(falcon) in the sky could increase dramatic effect. A lizard? This  looks
like a rather cold swamp to me! Too cold for a (cold blooded) lizard.
The scene reminds me of very similar sites in the northern Netherlands where
I lived for a time. In winter, they had this same strangely forlorn look.

Well done!

Thomas


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Dark, dank and dreary
Date: 16 May 2004 05:15:22
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"Hugo Asm" <hua### [at] post3teledk> wrote in message
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> I like it very much! Nice selection of colours (or lack of colours). Has
the
> right mood!  Somehow it's simple - though I know it isn't simple.  :o)

That's what I was going for, simple but interesting

> Thumbs up for photorealism.  If this image isn't a slow-render, then maybe
> you will render it with better anti-alias next time? Then the branches
won't
> look disjointed / broken.
>

That's +AM2 +R3 +A0.1 for a 5 hour render. Next time I'll just render it
double
size and let psp resize sort things out.

Gail
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Dark, dank and dreary
Date: 16 May 2004 05:16:13
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"Xplo Eristotle" <xpl### [at] infomagicnet> wrote in message
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>
> Reminds me of certain Magic cards.. players will remember the swamps. :D

It's inspired by one of the earlier swamp cards. I never played, but one of
my
friends did

Gail
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Dark, dank and dreary
Date: 16 May 2004 05:33:14
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"Marc Jacquier" <jac### [at] wanadoofr> wrote in message
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>

> 40a65228@news.povray.org...
> > And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
> >
> I love it!
> It has a so sorrow mood
> A few things I'd feel improvable: reeds are a bit too regular in size
IMHO.
> water waves should be smaller and shorter on  swamps this size: wind needs
> some distance  to build such a wave length.

Thanks, I'll adjust some of the scales.

> but I love the darkness of this scene: we don't know what hour it is. Day
is
> a long long gray laps of time... a scary night might fall at once.

It's actually midday, not that you'd know it by the light. Time has very
little
meaning here. Little changes from one day to the next

Gail
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Dark, dank and dreary
Date: 16 May 2004 05:47:31
Message: <40a738b3@news.povray.org>
"Samuel Benge" <stb### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> Somebody else mentioned Lord of the Rings, but I know which part this is
> from: it's when Frodo, Sam and Gollum are passing over the swamp, and
> floating below the water's surface are ghastly apparitions of the long
> deceased. Their pale faces staring blankly up to the surface....

It wasn't based on the LotR movie, but now that I think back to the movie,
it's
ver similar

> I've been thinking for some time the idea must be rendered in POV somehow.

I've got a scene in mind based on a similar idea. An enchanted lake in a
faerie
forest. Beneath the surface sleep the heros of days gone by, waiting for the
time they are needed again.

> Maybe that's what the scene needs.... a few corpses :)

Maybe, maybe not...

Gail
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* gsh### [at] sentechsacom        *  If one is going to lose one's mind,     *
* http://gail.rucus.net/     *  one might as well savor the experience  *
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* This is how the world ends. Swallowed in fire, but not in darkness    *
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Dark, dank and dreary
Date: 16 May 2004 05:49:22
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"GreyBeard" <r.b### [at] sbcglobalnet> wrote in message
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>
> "Gail Shaw" <gsh### [at] sentechsacom> wrote in message
> news:40a65228@news.povray.org...
> > And an idea that came to mind a week or so ago.
> >
> > I'm going to put a little lizard on the branch in the foreground. Other
> than
> > that,
> > I'm not sure what to do with this
> >
> > Comments, suggestions?
>
> Beautiful!  As one that's fascinated by swamps, this is one of the best
> representations I've seen.  The only comment, and purely my own, a thin
> ground haze, not enough to obscure the horizon, but to make the distant
> objects "ghosted".

There's fog already, just nothing far enough away to be 'ghosted'
I'm considering another layer of fog, very turbulent and very close to the
ground

Gail
--
*************************************************************************
* gsh### [at] sentechsacom        *  If one is going to lose one's mind,     *
* http://gail.rucus.net/     *  one might as well savor the experience  *
*************************************************************************
* This is how the world ends. Swallowed in fire, but not in darkness    *
*************************************************************************


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Dark, dank and dreary
Date: 16 May 2004 06:06:40
Message: <40a73d30@news.povray.org>
"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] internlnet> wrote in message
news:40a7124c@news.povray.org...
>
> So many comments already, that I am afraid to repeat. Great image with
> excellent atmosphere. In the far background I would place the silhouette
of
> a forest. Swamps are often restricted in size (at least the deep parts),
and
> surrounded by forested highs.

The distant background definatly needs work

> A little ground fog, also. A lone bird
> (falcon) in the sky could increase dramatic effect.

Oohhh, I like that.

> A lizard? This  looks
> like a rather cold swamp to me! Too cold for a (cold blooded) lizard.

Never let reality get in the way of a good picture *grin*
I certainly didn't intend this as a cold swamp.

Gail
--
*************************************************************************
* gsh### [at] sentechsacom        *  If one is going to lose one's mind,     *
* http://gail.rucus.net/     *  one might as well savor the experience  *
*************************************************************************
* This is how the world ends. Swallowed in fire, but not in darkness    *
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