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From: Felbrigg
Subject: Re: World on a Donut
Date: 2 Mar 2004 09:01:40
Message: <404493c4$1@news.povray.org>
Nice!

Have you ever tried "World in a Tube".  In a book called "EON", in contained
a huge endless Tube with the world wrapped around the Inside along in
length, and a shimmering (banded) light source running along the centre of
the tube.

It would be an intresting excercise.


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From: Jaap Frank
Subject: Re: World on a Donut
Date: 2 Mar 2004 10:15:39
Message: <4044a51b@news.povray.org>
"Tyler Eaves" <tyl### [at] ml1net> wrote in message
news:4044194e@news.povray.org...
> Basically the scene consists of two concentric torii lit by a parallel
> light. One torus is the "planet", the second has a slightly larger minor
> radius, and is used to layer the clouds on. I'm pretty happy with the
> clouds, REALLY happy with the oceans, and pretty happy about the
> continents. If I assume this is planet-like, the geology is pretty lousy,
> as it's the same at all latitudes. This, however is a TORUS, no way this
> thing could even hold water on the inner surface, and probably not the
> outer surface either...
>
> Code:        [..]

Beautiful !!
I've played a bit with your code, especially the clouds, because I think
they are to dark. Why do you use filter instead of transmit. I've changed it
to transmit and you get better lightning beneath the outer torus.
To make it more white I've changed the intensity of  both the light_ source
aswell as the white of the clouds.
Added some stars too.
I've attached the adapted file.

Greetings,

Jaap Frank


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From: Marc Roth
Subject: Re: World on a Donut
Date: 2 Mar 2004 11:46:42
Message: <4044ba72@news.povray.org>
Felbrigg wrote:
> Nice!
> 
> Have you ever tried "World in a Tube".  In a book called "EON", in contained
> a huge endless Tube with the world wrapped around the Inside along in
> length, and a shimmering (banded) light source running along the centre of
> the tube.
> 
> It would be an intresting excercise.
wasn't there some book called "rendezvous with rama" or something with a 
space-ship just like you described? i don't recall the author's name...

	Marc


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From: Tyler Eaves
Subject: Re: World on a Donut
Date: 2 Mar 2004 12:00:55
Message: <pan.2004.03.02.17.02.05.632942@NOSPAMml1.net>
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 16:15:35 +0100, Jaap Frank wrote:

> 
> "Tyler Eaves" <tyl### [at] ml1net> wrote in message
> news:4044194e@news.povray.org...
>> Basically the scene consists of two concentric torii lit by a parallel
>> light. One torus is the "planet", the second has a slightly larger minor
>> radius, and is used to layer the clouds on. I'm pretty happy with the
>> clouds, REALLY happy with the oceans, and pretty happy about the
>> continents. If I assume this is planet-like, the geology is pretty lousy,
>> as it's the same at all latitudes. This, however is a TORUS, no way this
>> thing could even hold water on the inner surface, and probably not the
>> outer surface either...
>>
>> Code:        [..]
> 
> Beautiful !!
> I've played a bit with your code, especially the clouds, because I think
> they are to dark. Why do you use filter instead of transmit. I've changed it
> to transmit and you get better lightning beneath the outer torus.
> To make it more white I've changed the intensity of  both the light_ source
> aswell as the white of the clouds.
> Added some stars too.
> I've attached the adapted file.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Jaap Frank

Wow, the clouds do look a lot nicer. I didn't have much time to tweak 'em,
as I spent most of the hour on the land.


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From: Tyler Eaves
Subject: Re: World on a Donut
Date: 2 Mar 2004 12:01:55
Message: <pan.2004.03.02.17.03.07.774422@NOSPAMml1.net>
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 17:51:34 +0100, Marc Roth wrote:

> Felbrigg wrote:
>> Nice!
>> 
>> Have you ever tried "World in a Tube".  In a book called "EON", in contained
>> a huge endless Tube with the world wrapped around the Inside along in
>> length, and a shimmering (banded) light source running along the centre of
>> the tube.
>> 
>> It would be an intresting excercise.
> wasn't there some book called "rendezvous with rama" or something with a 
> space-ship just like you described? i don't recall the author's name...
> 
> 	Marc

I think the Rama spacecraft (By Authur C. Clarke) was a closed cylinder,
but I haven't read it in a while. What the OP describes sounds like Larry
Niven's Ring World.


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From: Felbrigg
Subject: Re: World on a Donut
Date: 2 Mar 2004 12:38:04
Message: <4044c67c$1@news.povray.org>
Definitely not Ring World.  It was EON!  The plot was, a huge asteroid
appears in orbit round earth inhabited by evolved humans from the future who
have poked a hole in the space-time-thingy to make an infintely long tube!
Very good it was too!  cant quite remember the chaps name.



"Tyler Eaves" <tyl### [at] NOSPAMml1net> wrote in message
news:pan### [at] NOSPAMml1net...
> On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 17:51:34 +0100, Marc Roth wrote:
>
> > Felbrigg wrote:
> >> Nice!
> >>
> >> Have you ever tried "World in a Tube".  In a book called "EON", in
contained
> >> a huge endless Tube with the world wrapped around the Inside along in
> >> length, and a shimmering (banded) light source running along the centre
of
> >> the tube.
> >>
> >> It would be an intresting excercise.
> > wasn't there some book called "rendezvous with rama" or something with a
> > space-ship just like you described? i don't recall the author's name...
> >
> > Marc
>
> I think the Rama spacecraft (By Authur C. Clarke) was a closed cylinder,
> but I haven't read it in a while. What the OP describes sounds like Larry
> Niven's Ring World.
>


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From: Richard Callwood III
Subject: Re: World on a Donut
Date: 2 Mar 2004 18:01:14
Message: <jc3a4059ejvid1tl5f4756ec8414d8vbac@4ax.com>
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 00:20:21 -0500, Tyler Eaves <tyl### [at] ml1net> wrote:

Not that it matters, as far as artistic license is concerned, but...

>I'm stoked about how it came out. With more time it can definatly be
>improved, and there are a few glaring omissions (Starfield..., real
>atmosphere.), 

Your "glaring" omissions are glaring only for us Earthbound creatures
grown up on Hollywood special effects.  Stars are so faint compared to
a sunlit planet as to be practically invisible (have you noticed that
few stars are visible in photographs from the Moon or the space
shuttles?)  And the visible atmosphere of a planet is so thin (in the
case of Earth, less than 1% of its radius) that you need to be in
really low orbit to see it.

Again, though, it's up to how much artistic license you desire.
Hollywood special effects are so cool.

-- 
------------------- Richard Callwood III --------------------
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~  eastern Massachusetts  ~  USDA zone 6 (1992-95)          ~
--------------- http://cac.uvi.edu/staff/rc3/ ---------------


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From: Richard Callwood III
Subject: Re: World on a Donut
Date: 2 Mar 2004 18:25:08
Message: <3u4a40drtn7adm4v2ebnu2hmv98jfcie10@4ax.com>
On 2 Mar 2004 01:13:45 -0500, "Rafal 'Raf256' Maj" <spa### [at] raf256com>
wrote:

>It seems that every indent in Yours code start with an 0xa0 charter, 

That looks like the ever-popular non-breaking-space character.

Perhaps it's the KNode software?

The NBSP is a favorite among WYSIWYG HTML editors.  Of course, there
is no such thing as WYSIWYG HTML, but vendors will keep selling the
tools as long as Web designers (or their clients) continue to
believe--or wish--that this fantasy is real.

I can envision newsreader software trying the same thing.

-- 
------------------- Richard Callwood III --------------------
~  U.S. Virgin Islands    ~  USDA zone 11  ~  18.3N, 64.9W  ~
~  eastern Massachusetts  ~  USDA zone 6 (1992-95)          ~
--------------- http://cac.uvi.edu/staff/rc3/ ---------------


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From: Tyler Eaves
Subject: Re: World on a Donut
Date: 2 Mar 2004 18:49:11
Message: <pan.2004.03.02.23.50.23.796315@NOSPAMml1.net>
On Tue, 02 Mar 2004 19:25:08 -0400, Richard Callwood III wrote:

> On 2 Mar 2004 01:13:45 -0500, "Rafal 'Raf256' Maj" <spa### [at] raf256com>
> wrote:
> 
>>It seems that every indent in Yours code start with an 0xa0 charter, 
> 
> That looks like the ever-popular non-breaking-space character.
> 
> Perhaps it's the KNode software?

Quite possible. I edit my POV code in vim, so I can't imagine that being a
problem. I usually swear by pan for usenet, but it doesn't support binary
attachments[1], so I use KNode when posting images.




[1] - Somewhat odd really. It DISPLAYS them fine, including displaying
images in the message body, it just can't POST them.


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From: Barron Gillon
Subject: Re: World on a Donut
Date: 4 Mar 2004 00:17:48
Message: <4046bbfc$1@news.povray.org>
Ha...  That's odd because I'm using XP (excelent!) and Outlook Express (meh,
but it is convienient) and it worked just fine.  I'd imagine it's your
reader.  My condolences.  I'm not sure what to think of the clouds, but
that's some beautiful water!


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