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From: Dave Matthews
Subject: Re: Iso-Gate (74.2 K)
Date: 23 Oct 2003 11:25:01
Message: <web.3f97f1d0b078a8778062416c0@news.povray.org>
ABX wrote:
>Nice, what's the time ?
>
>ABX
>

A little over an hour on my Mac G3 300 (so divide by whatever for a newer
computer), but part of that is because the ground is 2 isosurfaces, also.
IIRC, the gate alone is about 30 minutes.

Dave Matthews


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From:  Light Beam 
Subject: Re: Iso-Gate (74.2 K)
Date: 23 Oct 2003 13:01:00
Message: <3f98094c$1@news.povray.org>
Really excellent pattern ! :-))


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From: Anthony D  Baye
Subject: Re: Iso-Gate (74.2 K)
Date: 23 Oct 2003 17:59:38
Message: <3F984F4A.76815A9E@Rapidnet.com>
Cool.  Sorta reminds me of something.  Almost as if the wall holds back the
wastes.


A.D.B

Dave Matthews wrote:

> No, not another American political scandal.
>
> Warped f_torus ("repeat" and "black_hole".)
>
> Dave Matthews
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From: St 
Subject: Re: Iso-Gate (74.2 K)
Date: 23 Oct 2003 18:59:41
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"Dave Matthews" <dma### [at] nospamnet> wrote in message
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> No, not another American political scandal.
>
> Warped f_torus ("repeat" and "black_hole".)

   That's really nice. That gate would be worth thousands manufactured
in iron.

   Hmm... methinks laser-cutting...  ;)

   ~Steve~


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From: Anonymous
Subject: Re: Iso-Gate (74.2 K)
Date: 23 Oct 2003 19:46:03
Message: <3f98683b$1@news.povray.org>
You'll need much stronger braces and hinges..


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Iso-Gate (74.2 K)
Date: 24 Oct 2003 13:56:01
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"Anonymous" <nob### [at] herecom> wrote in message
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> You'll need much stronger braces and hinges..

  Absolutely! The ones used here are no good.

  What's that black bit in the top right-hand corner of the gate?

   ~Steve~


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From: Dave Matthews
Subject: Re: Iso-Gate (74.2 K)
Date: 24 Oct 2003 15:10:01
Message: <web.3f9977cdb078a8778062416c0@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
>"Anonymous" <nob### [at] herecom> wrote in message
>news:3f98683b$1[at]news.povray.org...
>
>> You'll need much stronger braces and hinges..
>
>  Absolutely! The ones used here are no good.
>
>  What's that black bit in the top right-hand corner of the gate?
>
>   ~Steve~
>

Man, everyone's a critic! ;-)

A) It's an improvement over having it just float in space, which was what my
first attempt looked like.

B) The "black bit" is the latch extension, an L-shaped rod that goes down to
the catch, and, when rotated, rotates the catch away from the hook on the
other side so that the gate can swing open.

See, I provide lots of details, even if they wouldn't work in real life. . .
..

Now, I'll go home and design some stronger hinges, a better latch, and maybe
even a more realistic way of embedding the hardware into the brick wall
than just having it poke out.

Dave Matthews


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Iso-Gate (74.2 K)
Date: 24 Oct 2003 16:00:59
Message: <3f9984fb@news.povray.org>
"Dave Matthews" <dma### [at] wrmnwestmnscuedu> wrote in message
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> St. wrote:
> >"Anonymous" <nob### [at] herecom> wrote in message
> >news:3f98683b$1[at]news.povray.org...
> >
> >> You'll need much stronger braces and hinges..
> >
> >  Absolutely! The ones used here are no good.
> >
> >  What's that black bit in the top right-hand corner of the gate?
> >
> >   ~Steve~
> >
>
> Man, everyone's a critic! ;-)

   Of course.  ;)


>
> A) It's an improvement over having it just float in space, which was
what my
> first attempt looked like.

    Fine by me.

>
> B) The "black bit" is the latch extension, an L-shaped rod that goes
down to
> the catch, and, when rotated, rotates the catch away from the hook
on the
> other side so that the gate can swing open.

    That's fine by me too. Well, I couldn't see what it was supposed
to do, although now that you've explained it, it's obvious.


>
> See, I provide lots of details, even if they wouldn't work in real
life. . .

    But that would/could work in real life. There's no reason for it
not to work.


> ..
>
> Now, I'll go home and design some stronger hinges, a better latch,
and maybe
> even a more realistic way of embedding the hardware into the brick
wall
> than just having it poke out.

 And your image will be just fine with those adjustments. That's a
great gate, seriously. Take heed about what I said in a previous post.

    ~Steve~


>
> Dave Matthews
>


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From: Dave Matthews
Subject: Re: Iso-Gate (74.2 K)
Date: 24 Oct 2003 16:19:33
Message: <3f998955$1@news.povray.org>
In spite of the jokes about POVRay users getting lost in their own 
worlds, I find myself being far more observant of little day-to-day 
things now that I'm trying to model stuff.  Like the hinges and latches.

I sit down to make a gate, and then it hits me:  "I don't know how a 
gate is attached to a wall!"

And now I'm sitting here thinking:  "How do you brace up an iron gate? 
How is metal hardware attached to brick?  Should it be screwed straight 
in?  Why didn't I take shop classes in school?"

And the more I try to model something, the more amazed I am at the 
detailed work many POVRay users do.

The original purpose for making the gate was to think about why it is 
nice to apply warps directly to isosurfaces rather than by 
adding/multiplying/composing with warped patterns, and the two reasons I 
came up with were "repeat" warp and "black_hole" warp, both of which 
effects could probably be achieved by other means, but it seems so 
straight forward to apply them directly to a function.

Thanks for your comments.  (Do you think there could be a market for 
laser cutting patterns like this?)

Dave Matthews


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Iso-Gate (74.2 K)
Date: 25 Oct 2003 03:00:33
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"Dave Matthews" <dma### [at] nospamnet> wrote in message
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> And now I'm sitting here thinking:  "How do you brace up an iron
gate?
> How is metal hardware attached to brick?  Should it be screwed
straight
> in?  Why didn't I take shop classes in school?"

    Heh... I know what you mean. I think for heavy iron gates they put
the hinge in between the bricks, whereas yours are actually in the
bricks themselves.


>
> And the more I try to model something, the more amazed I am at the
> detailed work many POVRay users do.

   Oh yes, me too.

>
> The original purpose for making the gate was to think about why it
is
> nice to apply warps directly to isosurfaces rather than by
> adding/multiplying/composing with warped patterns, and the two
reasons I
> came up with were "repeat" warp and "black_hole" warp, both of which
> effects could probably be achieved by other means, but it seems so
> straight forward to apply them directly to a function.

    I haven't tried any of these yet, so I must give it a go.

>
> Thanks for your comments.  (Do you think there could be a market for
> laser cutting patterns like this?)

   Yeah, sure. People love their iron gates! I would say nice celtic
patterns would sell well too. There's some laser-cut and plasma-cut
gates here:

    http://www.osdsteel.com/gates.htm

   ~Steve~


>
> Dave Matthews
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