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From: Andreas Kreisig
Subject: Re: Lamborghini Diablo SV *** finished ***
Date: 31 May 2003 20:28:08
Message: <3ed94897@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias v2.0 wrote:


> With which Program did you model it? Can
> you steer the front tires? And will you make
> the source available for download?

I used Blender. And yes, I can steer the front tires. This is no problem, I 
only had to define a fixed point so that the steering axis is allways the 
same. Regarding the source: it's more than 100 MBytes.

Regards,
Andreas

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From: Ace
Subject: Re: Lamborghini Diablo SV *** finished ***
Date: 31 May 2003 20:53:28
Message: <3ed94e88@news.povray.org>
Whoa........ Sweet!


Gary

"Andreas Kreisig" <and### [at] gmxde> wrote in message
news:3ed91ed8@news.povray.org...
> Hi,
>
> Now I finished my Diablo.
>
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From: Jari Juslin
Subject: Re: Lamborghini Diablo SV *** finished ***
Date: 2 Jun 2003 13:41:10
Message: <3edb8c36@news.povray.org>
Andreas Kreisig wrote:
> Now I finished my Diablo.

Amazing!


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Lamborghini Diablo SV *** finished ***
Date: 3 Jun 2003 05:48:49
Message: <8lrodv40s8n0ulbc6so9ajkl8vhurq01gk@4ax.com>
On Sat, 31 May 2003 23:37:15 +0200, Andreas Kreisig <and### [at] gmxde>
wrote:

>Now I finished my Diablo.

Impressive! Now give it a yellow-to-red car paint using the new car
paint include and you can pass it for a photo :)


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
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From: Andreas Kreisig
Subject: Re: Lamborghini Diablo SV *** finished ***
Date: 3 Jun 2003 09:24:57
Message: <3edca1a9@news.povray.org>
Peter Popov wrote:

> On Sat, 31 May 2003 23:37:15 +0200, Andreas Kreisig <and### [at] gmxde>
> wrote:
> 
>>Now I finished my Diablo.
> 
> Impressive! Now give it a yellow-to-red car paint using the new car
> paint include and you can pass it for a photo :)

Thanks Peter. Well, I'm not aware of any Lamborghinis wich have a 
yellow-to-red painting. Maybe a custom painting or the newer Murcielago? :) 
However, here's the same image with some color correction:

http://www.render-zone.com/pictures/diablo_sv1.jpg

Regards,
Andreas

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From: Vahur Krouverk
Subject: Re: Lamborghini Diablo SV *** finished ***
Date: 3 Jun 2003 13:27:24
Message: <3edcda7c@news.povray.org>
Andreas Kreisig wrote:
> 
> Thanks Peter. Well, I'm not aware of any Lamborghinis wich have a 
> yellow-to-red painting. Maybe a custom painting or the newer Murcielago? :) 
> However, here's the same image with some color correction:
> 
> http://www.render-zone.com/pictures/diablo_sv1.jpg
> 

Good modelling, but something seem to lack still from it. I guess that 
this is finishing material of a car, currently it looks more like 
painted plastic instead of metal, it should be more reflective and 
highlights should be smaller. And it would be better, if you put it into 
environment to show reflections and color better, it would make 
impression more realistic. If you look at those Ferrari pictures:

http://forum.caligari.com/discus/messages/1583/11382.html?1054543671

then you perhaps understand, what I mean.

Vahur


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From: Peter Popov
Subject: Re: Lamborghini Diablo SV *** finished ***
Date: 4 Jun 2003 04:33:52
Message: <thbrdv4ls5d6709o4bjg3osls586mvon3g@4ax.com>
On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 15:32:14 +0200, Andreas Kreisig <and### [at] gmxde>
wrote:

>Thanks Peter. Well, I'm not aware of any Lamborghinis wich have a 
>yellow-to-red painting. Maybe a custom painting or the newer Murcielago? :) 

Maybe the guys at Lamborghini are just not aware as of how cool it
will look :))

Give it a yellow-to-red (I'd say black-to-indigo if it were a
Contache) paint + a nice HRDI environment and get us drooling over the
pic.


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vipbg
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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: Lamborghini Diablo SV *** finished ***
Date: 13 Jun 2003 22:05:22
Message: <lavkev405055ld8grq676qfss9193ueo13@4ax.com>
On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 20:27:21 +0300, Vahur Krouverk
<vkr### [at] starmanee> wrote:

>Good modelling, but something seem to lack still from it. I guess that 
>this is finishing material of a car, currently it looks more like 
>painted plastic instead of metal, it should be more reflective and 
>highlights should be smaller. And it would be better, if you put it into 
>environment to show reflections and color better, it would make 
>impression more realistic. If you look at those Ferrari pictures:

How does the look of painted plastic differ from painted metal? In
both cases, all you are looking at is PAINT! Also, underneath car
paint is a layer of primer, and underneath that is usually a layer of
anti-rust coating of some sort. You really shouldn't be seeing metal
through all those layers.

As for the number of reflections, that will depend greatly on the
environment the car is placed in. In this image, there is not much
around the car that would actually cause a reflection. It doesn't
matter what finish he gives the car, if there is nothing for it to
reflect.

As for the highlights being too small, once again this depends on the
environment the car is placed in. If the light sources are relatively
large and close to the car, you will have large highlights.

My main point is this: I think his car is very well done. The only
thing to possibly quibble about is the scene around the car. I think
it looks pretty good as is, but nearly anything could be tweaked and
enhanced to some degree.

My monitor renders his image very low-key and it's hard to see the
front of the car. Perhaps this isn't the way it's intended to be
viewed and my monitor's gamma doesn't match the original. Or perhaps
this is an intentional artistic choice, and my monitor is indeed
showing me the proper image.

Until I know what I'm supposed to be seeing, I won't criticize the
background or the lighting of the image. Any "faults" might be in my
computer and monitor.

Finally, I just want to say this is a great rendering of a great
automobile!


Later,
Glen Berry


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From: Ross Litscher
Subject: Re: Lamborghini Diablo SV *** finished ***
Date: 14 Jun 2003 00:38:23
Message: <3eeaa6bf@news.povray.org>
> How does the look of painted plastic differ from painted metal? In
> both cases, all you are looking at is PAINT!

i would assume that its the same reason why in artistic painting, blue paint
looks different when you paint it over red paint that has already dried, in
comparison to blue paint painted over white paint that has dried. not all
light gets reflected or absorbed on the first layer of blue and it travels
to the second layer of white or red, where the same thing happens again. so
the properties of what is underneath effect what you end up seeing.

but this is all just a guess.


ross


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From: Glen Berry
Subject: Re: Lamborghini Diablo SV *** finished ***
Date: 16 Jun 2003 04:45:31
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On Fri, 13 Jun 2003 23:52:16 -0400, "Ross Litscher"
<lit### [at] osuedu> wrote:

>i would assume that its the same reason why in artistic painting, blue paint
>looks different when you paint it over red paint that has already dried, in
>comparison to blue paint painted over white paint that has dried. not all
>light gets reflected or absorbed on the first layer of blue and it travels
>to the second layer of white or red, where the same thing happens again. so
>the properties of what is underneath effect what you end up seeing.

Well that's a nice guess, but the paint used on automobiles is applied
over a primer base, which itself has been applied over a
rust-resistant coating. Even if the car is painted with a transparent
or translucent paint, you will still not be able to see the metal
underneath, not even  in any subtle way. In fact, in the case of
transparent colors, there is an additional solid-pigmented base coat
applied first. Trust me, all you see when you look at a painted
automobile finish is the paint itself.

Automobile makers have made vehicle bodies out of a number of
different materials. Steel is the most common, but aluminum,
fiberglass, carbon-fiber, and a variety of exotic materials are also
used. Once these are painted, it is no longer possible to tell what
material is underneath the paint by casual observation.

For example, if no one had ever told you that Corvette bodies were not
made of metal, would you have been able to tell simply by looking at
one from a distance? I seriously doubt it.


take care,
Glen Berry


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