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From: GrimDude
Subject: Re: Kitchen - Ver 2 (~160Kb)
Date: 19 May 2002 01:31:08
Message: <3ce7389c$1@news.povray.org>
Man, post the code! :)

Grim


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Kitchen - Ver 2 (~160Kb)
Date: 19 May 2002 03:33:08
Message: <3ce75534$1@news.povray.org>
> Man, post the code! :)
>
> Grim

Thanks!:-)

Well as I mentioned before this scene has over 150MB of meshes in them and I
don't think people would be happy if I posted those:) Specifically the
following objects are meshes:

Microwave
Dishwasher
Stove
Sink
Teapot
Butchers Knife
Hanging Lamp shade
Desk Lamp

All the other stuff is native Pov. I can post the code if you don't mind
those objects missing. Also I use Moray so the resulting scene file is right
handed. Oh and there are also some image maps in there.


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Kitchen - Ver 2 (~160Kb)
Date: 19 May 2002 03:36:51
Message: <3ce75613$1@news.povray.org>
> This is 95 to 100% photorealistic, IMO.

:-)

> AA is pretty good. If you're concerned about the moire for the final
image,
> you should do a double, triple, or quadruple resolution render of just the
> blinds, and then scale them down in photoshop or something and paste them
on
> top of the original image.

I thought of that but the problem is that the blinds take up most of the
rendering time for the image anyways. For this render it took over 2 days to
finish the blinds, about 38% of the image, the rest took a hair under a day
so I wouldn't be saving a huge amount of time by not rendering the rest of
the scene.

> There are very minor flaws that i could be really picky about, but I think
> this could pass for a photo. I think the dishwashing liquid container
needs
> a label of some sort.

Yes I noticed this too, also its shape is somewhat cartoony which is only
accentuated by the lack of a label.

> I'd like to see you post this somewhere and claim it's a photo and see how
> people react =) but i'm just like that. =)

hehe.


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Kitchen - Ver 2 (~160Kb)
Date: 19 May 2002 03:41:56
Message: <3ce75744$1@news.povray.org>
> Beautiful render.  Great attention to detail.

Thanks!

> Do you think that kitchen is a signifier for "mother"?

Do you mean a metaphor? Hmm well I didn't plan it out with that in mind but
I can see where you are coming from, I was going for a warm intimate cozy
feeling which when combined with the setting could stand as a metaphor for
mother I guess.


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Kitchen - Ver 2 (~160Kb)
Date: 19 May 2002 03:52:07
Message: <3ce759a7$1@news.povray.org>
> Microwave
> Dishwasher
> Stove
> Sink
> Teapot
> Butchers Knife
> Hanging Lamp shade
> Desk Lamp

+=Toaster Oven
+=Phone
+=Toaster
+=Dish Liquid Container


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From: Thomas Lake
Subject: Re: Kitchen - Ver 2 (~160Kb)
Date: 19 May 2002 04:20:27
Message: <3ce7604b$1@news.povray.org>
One thing I just noticed about this image is that it seems to be very colour
temperature dependant. It does't look right unless viewed with a monitor
colour temp of 6500k, this is the setting I always use so I didn't notice
this until viewing it at 9300 on someone elses monitor.


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Subject: Re: Kitchen - Ver 2 (~160Kb)
Date: 19 May 2002 07:51:13
Message: <3ce791b1$1@news.povray.org>
"Slime" <slm### [at] slimelandcom> wrote in message
news:3ce71b1f$1@news.povray.org...
> This is 95 to 100% photorealistic, IMO.
>
> AA is pretty good. If you're concerned about the moire for the final
image,
> you should do a double, triple, or quadruple resolution render of just the
> blinds, and then scale them down in photoshop or something and paste them
on
> top of the original image.
>
> There are very minor flaws that i could be really picky about, but I think
> this could pass for a photo. I think the dishwashing liquid container
needs
> a label of some sort.
>
> I'd like to see you post this somewhere and claim it's a photo and see how
> people react =) but i'm just like that. =)

I'm not an expert of any sort, but two main things come to mind that strive
against this image looking like a photo, for me at least.
Firstly my own digital camera doesn't takes pictures with this kind of a
viewing angle. Look at the upper left for example. The second thing is that
it looks too artificial with no dirt or any kind of non-perfect aspects in
it. Maybe I'm just adjusted to our kitchen. :)
This third thing isn't maybe what your after, but I think the lighting is
just too dim for a kitchen environment, but it could be that the main lights
aren't on.
For the focal blur you need apertive and blur_samples to enable it.


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Subject: Re: Kitchen - Ver 2 (~160Kb)
Date: 19 May 2002 08:14:09
Message: <3ce79711$1@news.povray.org>
Oh and great image and lots of detail. ;)


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Kitchen - Ver 2 (~160Kb)
Date: 19 May 2002 13:04:11
Message: <3CE7DBA1.D7B96979@aol.com>
Thomas Lake wrote:

>
> Do you mean a metaphor? Hmm well I didn't plan it out with that in mind but
> I can see where you are coming from, I was going for a warm intimate cozy
> feeling which when combined with the setting could stand as a metaphor for
> mother I guess.

I meant signifier as in: symbol for, reference to, reminder of.  But the idea
of metaphor with associated feelings in common is just as interesting.  You put
a LOT of work into that picture.  Just wondering where the meaning might lay.


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Kitchen - Ver 2 (~160Kb)
Date: 28 Aug 2002 17:14:59
Message: <3d6d3d53@news.povray.org>
"Thomas Lake" <tla### [at] REMOVE-THISshawca> wrote in message
news:3ce712c8@news.povray.org...

    The teapot is too small...

   Very nice image though. I like.

     ~Steve~


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