"JRG" <jrg### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> After a more or less satisfactory exam at University, I've made some other
> little changes. I know the scene is far to be finished, but I'm quickly
> getting bored of it...is there anyone who knows this pathology? After
about
> one month of work I use to leave my scenes incomplete, just when I should
> add those little details that make a scene a good one... Anyway I
completely
> agree with Robert Becraft, we do have to be fussy in order to make a
> realistic scene which tells a realistic story, the problem here is that I
> have no eletronic tools as reference and my imagination is completely dry,
> so I have no idea which other tools I could model.

I find the lack of technical equipment/tools adds to the mystery of this
picture. The batteries, screws etc are all too big for the spider device.
Where did it come from ... how did it get built... how did the person get
it???

If you want to go the other way & imply that it is being built, then you
would need small screws, small precision (jewelers) screw drivers, small
pliers, perhaps a spare leg joint/hinge, small circuit board, small electric
motor, etc...

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The main things that bother me about the picture is the was the top of the
computer monitor disappears but the screen display  goes up into the
blackness. I think that the screen would be better without the spider
display, just the mysterious green character cell text.

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Still a fantastic picture... I only wish that I could create something as
interesting.

Chris

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Connect the spider to an oscilloscope!

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Exceptional picture.
Oldstench................

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Very nice.. the only thing I would say is that I think the glass is a little
too big and looks out of proportion - the base doesn't appear that much
smaller than the sandwich!  Apart from that and a bit of dirt and grime
you've got a top quality image.

Peter Cracknell

http://www.petercracknell.com

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"David Fontaine" <dav### [at] faricynet> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Great detail on that clutter, and its positioning is realistic too.
>
> I'd say it's very near completion.  One suggestion, try using light
> fading; fade_power and fade_distance.

My light has fade_power 4 and fade_distance 12...
Probably you are referring to the fill light.

> About the radiosity question: what kind of yellow?  Could it be coming
> from the wood?  IIRC you might try changing distance_maximum.

I thought distance_maximum was ignored by MegaPov radiosity, but I could be
wrong...

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Anyway, here's how it looked after one hour and twelve minutes of rendering:

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I think it loks great!  I don't have an answer for you about the 'dirt 
layer' but I hope you figure it out.  The only nitpick I have is that the 
writing on the desk is too neat.  There are a ton of free fonts on the 
internet that have a scribbled scrawl look; one of two of these would make 
the writing more realistic.  Try changing font sizes as well as font types 
too.

Rich

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JRG wrote:
> 
> After a more or less satisfactory exam at University, I've made some other
> little changes. I know the scene is far to be finished, but I'm quickly
> getting bored of it...is there anyone who knows this pathology? After about
> one month of work I use to leave my scenes incomplete, just when I should
> add those little details that make a scene a good one... Anyway I completely
> agree with Robert Becraft, we do have to be fussy in order to make a
> realistic scene which tells a realistic story, the problem here is that I
> have no eletronic tools as reference and my imagination is completely dry,
> so I have no idea which other tools I could model.
> I want to thank Tom Melly for donating me his sandwich (hoping he's not
> starving now...): it looks great (the mayo macro which puts the mayonnaise
> in the sandwich with the trace() function made me go crazy!).

It looks really good, just i think the smoke looks fairly bright.
Furthermore the shadowed parts of the wood on the left look much brighter
than the left side of the book for example.  Probably reducing the ambient
would help.

As 'Is' mentioned, the table looks to clan apart from the 'writings'. 
Some more (previously made) burns from the iron and some scratches would
look nice.

> Finally I have a couple of questions about some problems which puzzled me:
>   -I tried a radiosity version of the scene and I got very strange results:
> even with high quality radiosity settings (incredibly slow even with a 1Ghz
> machine...) the book looked completely yellow...I can post the image if
> someone is interested in this mistery.

I had a look at the small radiosity version and it looks fairly natural
(as far as i can see at that size)  You should expect a yellow tint with
all the wood.  The other walls of the room are important too of course,
furthermore you an vary the light source color. 

And of course don't forget to turn all ambient finishes to 0 (apart from
the lamp)

Christoph

-- 
Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
IsoWood include, radiosity tutorial, TransSkin and other 
things on: http://www.schunter.etc.tu-bs.de/~chris/

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"Is" <mee### [at] yahoocom> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Personally I think the detail and "stuff" you have there is great.

Thank you, but I think there is still too empty space.

> The desk isn't scratched up enough, and maybe the bottom part of the
> wall that touches the desk.

Yeah, you're probably right.


> if I take a broad view, the only things that don't look photorealistic
> are the soldering iron, the PC screen, and the black/yellow handle of
> the screwdriver (it's too clean).

I'll try to fix the handle of the screwdriver. As concern the soldering iron
and the screen you could suggest me what is wrong. ;)


> Don't get me wrong, I could not do this in a month.

As a matter of fact, I decided to start this scene on May the 25th. As
concern the spider, it took me the first week of May to model it, just at
the beginning of the round, but I couldn't get any good idea on how using it
until the end of the month.

> This is a really great pic, and I hope you get a really high score.

It's just my second entry, I don't expect that much. Thank you anyway.

JRG.

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"Chris Poole" <chr### [at] usaskca> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>
> I find the lack of technical equipment/tools adds to the mystery of this
> picture. The batteries, screws etc are all too big for the spider device.
> Where did it come from ... how did it get built... how did the person get
> it???

Well, to say the truth, I'd want you to know that the spider has been built.
If the scene doesn't show this, well, there's lack of something...

> If you want to go the other way & imply that it is being built, then you
> would need small screws, small precision (jewelers) screw drivers, small
> pliers, perhaps a spare leg joint/hinge, small circuit board, small
electric
> motor, etc...

I tried to model a small circuit board, but I didn't get any good result.
Probably I need to find some photos or drawings to use as reference. BTW
I'll try to add smaller screws, screwdrivers et similia.

> The main things that bother me about the picture is the was the top of the
> computer monitor disappears but the screen display  goes up into the
> blackness. I think that the screen would be better without the spider
> display, just the mysterious green character cell text.

I didn't notice it before you told me, but doesn't this happen in real life?
IMHO the shadow shouldn't darken the PC screen since it's emitting light. I
may be wrong.

> Still a fantastic picture...

Thank you a lot.

JRG.

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