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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Magical Library (70kbu)
Date: 11 Dec 2000 07:26:06
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David Fontaine <dav### [at] faricynet> wrote in message
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> Hexenish...

Never played it. Not too fond of fps games

Gail
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Magical Library (70kbu)
Date: 11 Dec 2000 07:35:02
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Geoff Wedig <wed### [at] darwinepbicwruedu> wrote in message
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>
> Add to that,
>
> 6) Views through windows look flat, like a painting, as opposed to a
'view',
> especially that on the right wall.  This is probably due to the angles
> involved between the window and the mountain within it.

Not sure how to fix that. I might change the view from the right
hand window as it was done very quickly

> 7) Something about the triangular windows bugs me.  Perhaps it's their
> constant color, or something.

I'm thinking of changing it to a gradient from dark blue to black

>Also, the little white spot (moon?) in the
> triangle above the back window looks more like an error than anything.
> Remove it?

Supposed to be the moon. Needs moving and a texture change

Gail
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Magical Library (70kbu)
Date: 11 Dec 2000 08:04:55
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Wolfgang Manousek <wol### [at] hotmailcom> wrote in message
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> - wall, wood look all new, some more seasoned look would be great

Since two people have mentioned that, I'll look into it.

> - work on the lights, right now it is pretty uniform, some well defined
> light sources and shadows might generate depth and 'mystery'

I think there are too many lights. Each of the glowing globes is a light
source,
and there are another two behind the camera. Maybe if I tone down the light
from
each globe, remove the lights behind the camera and add one main light.

> nice work !
>

thanks

Gail
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Magical Library (70kbu)
Date: 11 Dec 2000 08:30:44
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Remco de Korte <rem### [at] onwijscom> wrote in message
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> I like the floor actually. In fact I think the rest looks a bit too
'clean',
> possibly caused by the lighting. It's a pity that the book cases are in
the dark
> and the corner with the windows is much lighter. This seems a bit odd,
though
> that's probably the magical nature.

It looks like I need to fix the lighting :-( I'm also going to
need a faster computer <g>

> Still, I think the light in the topright corner attracts too much
attention,
> taking it from the rest of the scene.
>

That's supposed to be the moon.

Gail
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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Magical Library (70kbu)
Date: 11 Dec 2000 09:24:10
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j charter <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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> The foggy floor and placement of library artifacts is suggestive of a
> graveyard?  Classic graveyard groundmist with headstones? Or is it
> merely dreamscape?

Well I didn't base this on any graveyard scenes, more based on the ruined
temple
in swamp

>The scenes in the windows are obviously separate and
> one looks to be your winning entry from irtc nature round?

Yup, well spotted

> The mix of death/horror and books is suggestive of Lovecraft?

Haven't read any of his work. Where  do you see death/horror?

> Is there personal iconography here?

Not that I'm aware of.

>The leitmotif of the receeding lamps near the
> bookshelves is strange, the most dreamlike in a way.  The juxtaposed
> textures of wood and stone seems personal, idiosyncratic. Paul Delvaux?

Who?

Thanks for the analysis, was interesting.

Gail
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From: Jérôme M  Berger
Subject: Re: Magical Library (70kbu)
Date: 11 Dec 2000 11:15:16
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> 
> I think there are too many lights. Each of the glowing globes is a light
> source,
> and there are another two behind the camera. Maybe if I tone down the light
> from
> each globe, remove the lights behind the camera and add one main light.
> 
	Or else, you might want to try fade_distance and fade_power. This is
typically the kind of situation where they'd be most usefull.


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From: J Charter
Subject: Re: Magical Library (70kbu)
Date: 11 Dec 2000 19:42:15
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Gail Shaw wrote:

> > The mix of death/horror and books is suggestive of Lovecraft?
>
> Haven't read any of his work. Where  do you see death/horror?

That was assuming the graveyard reference

> > Is there personal iconography here?
>
> Not that I'm aware of.

libraries = temples ?

>  Paul Delvaux?
>
> Who?

Belgiean surrealist - example of receeding leitmotif:
http://www2.prestel.co.uk/youngjohns/delvaux/delvaux1.jpg

The reference to Delvaux is a stretch but I just thought I would mention it.
His work has some interesting attributes of dreamscapes which  your work is
suggestive of at times.  What seems to be fading btw and which struck me
about your work is the complex narrative that underlay your earlier tracings
such as your entry in the horror round.

-Jim


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Magical Library (70kbu)
Date: 13 Dec 2000 06:31:41
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J Charter <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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> Belgiean surrealist - example of receeding leitmotif:
> http://www2.prestel.co.uk/youngjohns/delvaux/delvaux1.jpg

Interesting stuff there

> What seems to be fading btw and which struck me
> about your work is the complex narrative that underlay your earlier
tracings
> such as your entry in the horror round.

Most of the pics I do have a story, when I get round to
updating my web site I'll add the context to the pictures.
This particular scene is one of the few without a back story.

Gail
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