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From: Rob Hoopman
Subject: Newbie getting in over his head, advice appreciated [repost jpg]
Date: 21 Aug 2002 04:32:12
Message: <3D636C3E.4070007@tuna.nl>
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Hi all
As I realised the dice theme was already tadequately taken care of by
Rene....
I had no idea what to do next. So I thought it would be nice to have POV
issued inspiration/ talent pills for newbies like me.
As there were none obviously none available, I thought to make the pills
myself.
I was reminded there could be a story fitting the IRTC topic.
I remembered a subject from quite some time ago. Someone i knew closely
took his own life taking a medicine coctail. Later it became clear he
had many times before shied away from doing this earlier moments before
the act.
I still have aa poem from him which goes along the lines of wanting to
end it but not being able to at the last moment because there is noone
present to say goodbye to.
The image is supposed to be this:
Glass ( still filled with water )
Drops in picture already are tears
Pills (...)
The rest of the story has te be told by the title
One practical question:
Is the subject even suitable/ appropriate for IRTC?
Including text in the description to tell part of the story seems more
or less customary?
Anyway, I'm planning to work on this some more and submit it. As I am
_really_ new at this, I am sure you have a lot of critisism, I'm
interested in the constructive subset.
Especially any hints on the sink surface would be welcome, allthough it
would probably be better for people less than a week playing around with
POV to find out some stuff for them selves first ;-)
One specific question I do have though: the interiors and textures
included with pov only behave properly when objects are properly sized,
I read in the docs,(and experimenting a bit with glass objects confirmed
this.) However I can't seem to find what 'properly sized' is, or how big
a povunit is.
The answer is probably that that it not defined, but the interiors in
the includes seem to behave better at some sizes than others. Are there
any guidelines for this?
Rob.
P.S. My apologies for the amount of text a pov.binaries.* posting I'll
try to up the binary-to-ascii ratio a bit next time.
P.P.S. Don't worry I am fully prepared to come in last last...
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> The rest of the story has te be told by the title
> One practical question:
> Is the subject even suitable/ appropriate for IRTC?
> Including text in the description to tell part of the story seems more
> or less customary?
Irtc is pretty tolerable, but I am not sure if this would fit in topic.
With the story it is mostly ok, but I still keep wondering why there is
pov sign on the pills. Is POV-Ray the last and desperative action that
lonely people commit?
Refer to Too Lonely posted by T. Nikias few days ago, it has this same
pill theme, but it carries the message stronger.
I think Irtc is image contest and the consept of the image should be in
the image. The description can give background and reveal some hidden
messages but don't count on that to carry the message. Many people don't
even bother to read those decriptions.
> Especially any hints on the sink surface would be welcome, allthough it
> would probably be better for people less than a week playing around with
> POV to find out some stuff for them selves first ;-)
One good rule of thumb is that never make anything perfect. In this
picture there is pretty perfect reflection and perfectly sharp edge on
the stone board.
I like the stone texture a lot.
> One specific question I do have though: the interiors and textures
> included with pov only behave properly when objects are properly sized,
> I read in the docs,(and experimenting a bit with glass objects confirmed
> this.) However I can't seem to find what 'properly sized' is, or how big
> a povunit is.
I think it is what you wan't it to be. I like to use scale of 1 povunit
to 1 meter, but many like 1 unit to 1 cm or less.
> The answer is probably that that it not defined, but the interiors in
> the includes seem to behave better at some sizes than others. Are there
> any guidelines for this?
If someone knows any guidline for povray, i'd like to hear it =)
> P.P.S. Don't worry I am fully prepared to come in last last...
This picture has potential to be much more than the last, study works of
the masters (you find many posting here) and try to figure out what
makes the difference (and tell me because I am trying to figure it out
myself).
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camera{look_at y+2angle 135} box{-1 9pigment{rgb.8} finish{reflection.3}
no_image}#macro l(a) light_source{8*a rgb a/vlength(a)fade_power 2
fade_distance 3}#end l(x)l(y)l(z)l(1-x)l(1-y)l(1-z)l(x+y+z) sphere{4 3
finish{reflection 1}no_shadow}//pto
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From: Sonarman
Subject: Re: Newbie getting in over his head, advice appreciated [repost jpg]
Date: 2 Sep 2002 21:03:23
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Great job! I think it's really good and touching! Just get rid of the
POV-Ray symbol on the pills :) I actually like yours better than the
other pills-suicide one (not that the other one isn't good!) I think
you should definitely enter this in the contest.
Keep up the good work!
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