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On Mon, 29 Jul 2002 22:26:51 +0200, Julien Gourdon wrote:
> Any comments, suggestions, questions ? Does anyone know how to make
> realistic cigarette smoke ?
>
The render time isn't bad, but the smoke is. I seem to remember a scene
that comes with POV called smoke.pov which had realy good smoke in it, but
I don't know if this was bundled with POV-Ray 3.5.
Your modelling is excelent, particularly the glowing cigarette ash.
But at the end of the day it's best to pack in while you can, I stopped
smoking over a month ago, and I'd recomend it to anyone.
--
#local i=.1;#local I=(i/i)/i;#local l=(i+i)/i;#local ll=(I/i)/l;box{<-ll,
-((I/I)+l),-ll><ll,-l,ll>pigment{checker scale l}finish{ambient((I/l)/I)+
(l/I)}}sphere{<i-i,l-l,(I/l)>l/l pigment{rgb((I/l)/I)}finish{reflection((
I/l)/I)-(l/I)specular(I/l)/I}}light_source{<I-l,I+I,(I-l)/l>l/l} // Steve
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The red glowing part is too red and dull. It looks like the end of the
cigarette was dipped in blood. Perhaps a little more orange and much
brighter?
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Hello Julien. That's a very good cigarette (if ever there was such a
thing ;). I was thinking a week ago about maybe trying to use an
extruded patch and then placing a semi-transparent pigment onto it using
uv_mapping. This way, it might be possible to create the swirls smoke
has when it is in a room with little wind.
Julien Gourdon wrote:
> Hi all
> This is one of my first attempts to make a kind of cigarette smoke.
> It is a 800x600 with AA 0.3 render, with radiosity and 4 (I'll explain)
> light sources (the 'sun' is an area_light). It took 4 hours on my XP
> 2000+ to render.
> The smoke itself is a cone filled with a media whose density is a
> function of my own. I had lots of pbs with the function, because if I
> want a shape that matches most a real cigarette smoke's one, the
> function must be very complex, and the render time reachs the sky. And
> because of the color too. It seems that if I want blue reflects in the
> scattering media, I need to set up his color to something like <1, 1,
> 0.5>. I understand it for absorption, but what about defuse light in
> scattering media ? Am I forgetting someting ? Finally I choose a
> scattering media with a very little extinction, and some emission and
> absorption.
> Not much to say about the ashtray and the cigarette (and no words about
> the ugly environment :pp). The cigarette is just two cylinders with
> color_maps. The red glowing part (sorry for my bad english) is two mixed
> isosurfaces, one filled with a grey pigment, and the other with a red
> emitting media. There are three red fading lights around the glowing
> part, to make a red glow on the ashtray and on the smoke. This surely
> needs to be improved, because of what happens on render time :(
>
> Any comments, suggestions, questions ? Does anyone know how to make
> realistic cigarette smoke ?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Tony Vigil wrote:
> smokegen.inc
I found it on the web, but it doesn't seem to work with pov 3.5 anymore.
Anyway, as far as I can see, it fakes smoke with little spheres filled
with a kind of bozo media. Does it really look like smoke ?
I'll look at it.
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Steve wrote:
> The render time isn't bad, but the smoke is. I seem to remember a scene
> that comes with POV called smoke.pov which had realy good smoke in it, but
> I don't know if this was bundled with POV-Ray 3.5.
It uses 'halo' and I don't know yet how to replace it. I'll look for it.
>
> Your modelling is excelent, particularly the glowing cigarette ash.
Thank you.
> But at the end of the day it's best to pack in while you can, I stopped
> smoking over a month ago, and I'd recomend it to anyone.
I'm not modeling a cigarette because I like to smoke. Some things are
beautiful, I think (like cigarette smoke), and I don't see why I
couldn't render them :)
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Samuel Benge wrote:
> Hello Julien.
Hi samuel
> That's a very good cigarette (if ever there was such a
> thing ;).
Thanks. I like the way cigarette smoke go up in the air. Never said
cigarettes were good :-)
> I was thinking a week ago about maybe trying to use an
> extruded patch and then placing a semi-transparent pigment onto it using
> uv_mapping. This way, it might be possible to create the swirls smoke
> has when it is in a room with little wind.
Hum, I don't like much uv mapping. I'm sure I can find some procedural
texture to simulate it. I'm still searching.
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How's this look? Just the smoke - not the cig.
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On 29 Jul 2002 17:44:49 -0400, Steve <ste### [at] zeropps uklinux net>
wrote:
>I stopped smoking over a month ago, and I'd recomend it to anyone.
Me too - it was a rebirth! The only problem is that now smokers around
me tend to annoy me. When you live with the stench you don't mind it,
but when you quit - ack!
Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] vip bg
TAG e-mail : pet### [at] tag povray org
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Hi, really good modelling of the objects in the scene.
As for the smoke you shouldn't use a cone. It isn't right from a fluid
dynamic point of view.
The smoke should remain laminar for a while, I mean like a stream, then
it makes a kind of transition from laminar to turbulent. Is from this
point on that the smoke expands in a chaotic way.
Anyway really a great image.
Massimiliano.
Julien Gourdon wrote:
> Hi all
> This is one of my first attempts to make a kind of cigarette smoke.
> It is a 800x600 with AA 0.3 render, with radiosity and 4 (I'll explain)
> light sources (the 'sun' is an area_light). It took 4 hours on my XP
> 2000+ to render.
> The smoke itself is a cone filled with a media whose density is a
> function of my own. I had lots of pbs with the function, because if I
> want a shape that matches most a real cigarette smoke's one, the
> function must be very complex, and the render time reachs the sky. And
> because of the color too. It seems that if I want blue reflects in the
> scattering media, I need to set up his color to something like <1, 1,
> 0.5>. I understand it for absorption, but what about defuse light in
> scattering media ? Am I forgetting someting ? Finally I choose a
> scattering media with a very little extinction, and some emission and
> absorption.
> Not much to say about the ashtray and the cigarette (and no words about
> the ugly environment :pp). The cigarette is just two cylinders with
> color_maps. The red glowing part (sorry for my bad english) is two mixed
> isosurfaces, one filled with a grey pigment, and the other with a red
> emitting media. There are three red fading lights around the glowing
> part, to make a red glow on the ashtray and on the smoke. This surely
> needs to be improved, because of what happens on render time :(
>
> Any comments, suggestions, questions ? Does anyone know how to make
> realistic cigarette smoke ?
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Massimiliano Cirri wrote:
> Hi, really good modelling of the objects in the scene.
> As for the smoke you shouldn't use a cone. It isn't right from a fluid
> dynamic point of view.
Humm, didn't think of that. But the cone is just a container. The trick
is in my density function.
> The smoke should remain laminar for a while, I mean like a stream, then
> it makes a kind of transition from laminar to turbulent. Is from this
> point on that the smoke expands in a chaotic way.
Thanks for the advices. I tried to take care of what everyone said, and
here is where I am right now.
> Anyway really a great image.
Thanks a lot. But it's just a WIP ;)
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