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From: Kari Kivisalo
Subject: Re: Help with JPEG conversion
Date: 25 Aug 2000 17:24:30
Message: <39A6E42C.30236226@kivisalo.net>
Kevin Jackson-Mead wrote:
>(I set the compression to its lowest possible value)? 

Since you like to use bright primary colors there is not much you can do
in PSP to get better jpgs because it encodes color values at half resolution
as do all editors.

cjpeg encodes color at full resolution with -sample 1x1 switch.

cjpeg -quality 80 -optimize -dct float -sample 1x1 >
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~kkivisal/box_cjpeg.jpg
                                               


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Help with JPEG conversion
Date: 25 Aug 2000 17:28:11
Message: <39a6e4eb@news.povray.org>
Wow!  And I say again, wow!
Did you realize this JPG is only 18.1 K compared to that other one of 31.4 K
?!
I'm stunned at the quality and file size you obtained using that program.

Bob

"Fabien Mosen" <fab### [at] skynetbe> wrote in message
news:39A6E044.A4223A0C@skynet.be...
|  If you're not afraid of using a DOS-based
| program, I recommend "SEA" which you can get from www.photodex.com
| (shareware with GUI, stopped developpement :-(( ).


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From: Kevin Jackson-Mead
Subject: Re: Help with JPEG conversion
Date: 25 Aug 2000 17:44:17
Message: <39A6E83E.91B21BB3@mindspring.com>
Thank you Fabien, Bob, and Kari for the clear replies.  I think I'll tone down
the color a bit and grab that program.

Kevin Jackson-Mead
http://www.mindspring.com/~jacksonmead


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Help with JPEG conversion
Date: 25 Aug 2000 23:03:07
Message: <39A73147.CA5B9F2F@faricy.net>
Fabien Mosen wrote:

> In general, you might want to avoid such pure tones, as it JPG badly,
> and, anyway, it's harsh, even without the compression problems.
>
> That said, there is a solution to your problem : you must ensure that
> your conversion program does 1x1x1 subsampling in JPG conversion.
> PSP is unable to do that.  If you're not afraid of using a DOS-based
> program, I recommend "SEA" which you can get from www.photodex.com
> (shareware with GUI, stopped developpement :-(( ).
>
> I join a sample of what it can do for your problem.

What is n:n:n subsampling exactly? (I checked my program and it has YUV 4:1:1,
4:2:2 or 4:4:4)

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Help with JPEG conversion
Date: 25 Aug 2000 23:06:58
Message: <39A7322E.DB3DF05@faricy.net>
David Fontaine wrote:

> What is n:n:n subsampling exactly? (I checked my program and it has YUV 4:1:1,
> 4:2:2 or 4:4:4)

Oh, stupid question! Appearently that is the sampling resolution of the YUV
components.

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From: Fabien Mosen
Subject: Re: Help with JPEG conversion
Date: 26 Aug 2000 01:00:14
Message: <39A74D9F.4F47C9C8@skynet.be>
Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> Wow!  And I say again, wow!
> Did you realize this JPG is only 18.1 K compared to that other one of 31.4 K
> ?!

Yes !

> I'm stunned at the quality and file size you obtained using that program.

That's why I registered it at the time (3 years ago ?), and always
use it when it comes to JPG conversion.  But I'm pretty sure that
others free or inexpensive software can achieve the same quality/size,
they just have to offer precise control over the JPG specs.

Fabien.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Help with JPEG conversion
Date: 26 Aug 2000 11:12:39
Message: <39A7DDC2.A0974758@pacbell.net>
Fabien Mosen wrote:

> > I'm stunned at the quality and file size you obtained using that program.
> 
> That's why I registered it at the time (3 years ago ?), and always
> use it when it comes to JPG conversion.

I have been using it a bit longer and I too regeitered it. It is
the only program I will use for browsing directories full of images
on my hard drive because of the speed at which it works. An awsome
little program. For those interested it also has some limited sound
support and will also play AVI's.

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From: Eric Freeman
Subject: Re: Help with JPEG conversion
Date: 27 Aug 2000 16:27:52
Message: <39a979c8$1@news.povray.org>
"Bob Hughes" <per### [at] aolcom?subject=PoV-News:> wrote in message
news:39a6e4eb@news.povray.org...
>
> Wow!  And I say again, wow!
> Did you realize this JPG is only 18.1 K compared to
> that other one of 31.4 K?!
> I'm stunned at the quality and file size you obtained
> using that program.

I use Corel PhotoPaint 8 and have been using it since version 3.  Older
versions (5 or 6) are usually available for $50 or less.  I compressed the
png down to 12k without noticeable artifacts.

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From: Jérôme Berger
Subject: Re: Help with JPEG conversion
Date: 28 Aug 2000 07:48:54
Message: <39AA51A6.46F7765F@enst.fr>
Fabien Mosen wrote:
> 
> In general, you might want to avoid such pure tones, as it JPG badly,
> and, anyway, it's harsh, even without the compression problems.
> 
> That said, there is a solution to your problem : you must ensure that
> your conversion program does 1x1x1 subsampling in JPG conversion.
> PSP is unable to do that.  If you're not afraid of using a DOS-based
> program, I recommend "SEA" which you can get from www.photodex.com
> (shareware with GUI, stopped developpement :-(( ).
> 
	I think that the latest version of the gimp (1.1.x) allows it. Go to
http://www.gimp.org for more info (or
http://user.sgic.fi/~tml/gimp/win32/ if you're running windows)


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From: Greg M  Johnson
Subject: Re: Help with JPEG conversion
Date: 30 Aug 2000 14:48:22
Message: <39AD55C1.AD5B43FD@my-dejanews.com>
Also red sucks for distortion in JPG compression wrt/ blue & green.....

Kevin Jackson-Mead wrote:

>  Does the distortion I'm getting have to do
> with that?  If so, is there something in the conversion settings that I
> can change (I set the compression to its lowest possible value)?  Or do
> I need to change the scene around?


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