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From: Jan Walzer
Subject: just some simple Objects for a simple Background, done with a simple POV-Ray ...
Date: 9 Jul 2000 15:26:38
Message: <3968d1ee@news.povray.org>
Just did this, as a simple Background-Wallpaper, to complete my
windows-theme and thought about to share it ...
I did it quite fast in Moray, but it rendered (cause of the
focalblur) in about 8 hours in 1280x960 ...

Some comments ???



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From: Fabien Hénon
Subject: Re: just some simple Objects for a simple Background, done with a simple POV-Ray ...
Date: 9 Jul 2000 16:56:47
Message: <3968E67A.ED42D39C@club-internet.fr>
Nice one.
One comment : You should play with the confidence and variance value for
the focal_blur . ( Confidence with something like 0.999999 and variance
with 1/1000000). It is going to take longer to render but the sphere in
the background will look better.





> Just did this, as a simple Background-Wallpaper, to complete my
> windows-theme and thought about to share it ...
> I did it quite fast in Moray, but it rendered (cause of the
> focalblur) in about 8 hours in 1280x960 ...
>
> Some comments ???
>
> --
>
>  ,',    Jan Walzer      \V/  http://wa.lzer.net     ,',
> ',','   student of      >|<  mailto:jan### [at] lzernet ',','
>   '   ComputerScience   /A\  +49-177-7403863         '
>
>  [Image]


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From: Jan Walzer
Subject: Re: just some simple Objects for a simple Background, done with a simple POV-Ray ...
Date: 9 Jul 2000 17:07:15
Message: <3968e983@news.povray.org>
> Nice one.
> One comment : You should play with the confidence and variance
value for
> the focal_blur . ( Confidence with something like 0.999999 and
variance
> with 1/1000000). It is going to take longer to render but the
sphere in
> the background will look better.
>

The sphere is in the very near foreground (can you see shadows of
here [is 'sphere' female in english too ??? in german it is ...]
on the plane???) and I did use very high confidence/variance
values. As you can see there is no "dithering-like"-pattern in
the sphere... the sphere is completely soft, as it should be ...
But, of course I used a camera-aperature of 3.0 ... the highest
value, moray allowed me to set directly..

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From: Fabien Hénon
Subject: Re: just some simple Objects for a simple Background, done with a simple POV-Ray ...
Date: 9 Jul 2000 17:37:21
Message: <3968EFFB.7E5379D0@club-internet.fr>
What I meant is that you can see 'jagged' lines of the sphere as though
there are three or four semi transparent which are a bit larger than the
actual one.
I am sorry to contradict you, but the sphere is not as smooth as it can
be.
Maybe it is onely the JPEG artifacts.







> > Nice one.
> > One comment : You should play with the confidence and variance
> value for
> > the focal_blur . ( Confidence with something like 0.999999 and
> variance
> > with 1/1000000). It is going to take longer to render but the
> sphere in
> > the background will look better.
> >

> The sphere is in the very near foreground (can you see shadows of
> here [is 'sphere' female in english too ??? in german it is ...]
> on the plane???) and I did use very high confidence/variance
> values. As you can see there is no "dithering-like"-pattern in
> the sphere... the sphere is completely soft, as it should be ...
> But, of course I used a camera-aperature of 3.0 ... the highest
> value, moray allowed me to set directly..
>
> --
>
>  ,',    Jan Walzer      \V/  http://wa.lzer.net     ,',
> ',','   student of      >|<  mailto:jan### [at] lzernet ',','
>   '   ComputerScience   /A\  +49-177-7403863         '


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From: Doug Eichenberg
Subject: Re: just some simple Objects for a simple Background, done with a simple POV-Ray ...
Date: 9 Jul 2000 18:12:16
Message: <3968f8c0@news.povray.org>
Very cool... I love images with focal blur.

-Doug Eichenberg


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From: Ian Witham
Subject: Re: just some simple Objects for a simple Background, done with a simple POV-Ray ...
Date: 9 Jul 2000 19:16:05
Message: <396907b5@news.povray.org>
Sphere's are not female nor male... I think in the English language boats
are the only objects inherently female.
Is the sphere a boat? if it is then it is a female :-)

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> The sphere is in the very near foreground (can you see shadows of
> here [is 'sphere' female in english too ??? in german it is ...]


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: just some simple Objects for a simple Background, done with a simple POV-Ray ...
Date: 9 Jul 2000 21:32:13
Message: <3969279d@news.povray.org>
Simple yet unique.  I like it.  Seems to have a fogginess along with the
blurring, ground fog perhaps?  And most interesting are the reflections in the
sphere and box which also show the non-blurred and blurred parts of the
checker floor.  One of the best focal blurs I've seen done too, not sure what
Fabien H. is seeing.

Bob


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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: just some simple Objects for a simple Background, done with a simple POV-Ray ...
Date: 9 Jul 2000 22:45:52
Message: <396937C3.4ED797AA@attglobal.net>
Ian Witham wrote:
> 
> Sphere's are not female nor male... I think in the English language boats
> are the only objects inherently female.

If you talk to a sailor, boats, the sea, storms and even whales will
have the feminine gender.  

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From: Edward Coffey
Subject: Re: just some simple Objects for a simple Background, done with a simple POV-Ray ...
Date: 9 Jul 2000 23:06:30
Message: <39693db6@news.povray.org>
Francois Labreque wrote:
>
> Ian Witham wrote:
> >
> > Sphere's are not female nor male... I think in the English language
boats
> > are the only objects inherently female.
>
> If you talk to a sailor, boats, the sea, storms and even whales will
> have the feminine gender.

Yes, traditionally sailors are lonely, lonely men :)


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From: GrimDude
Subject: Re: just some simple Objects for a simple Background, done with a simple POV-Ray ...
Date: 10 Jul 2000 02:18:31
Message: <39696ab7@news.povray.org>
juxtaposition - doh!

There is a point at which higher confidence is only a hindrance. This render
came off well enough. :)

Fabien is right, though. IMHO you might very well change your 'vision' (of
the image) if you rendered with higher confidence. When I get to playing
with such things my images take on entirely new headings, and some of the
mistakes are the best ones! :)

Grim


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