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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:28:18
Message: <38D90314.E837832C@pacbell.net>
Chris Huff wrote:

> I read one of the Dune books, and apparently, almost all of the land of
> Arrakis was just sand with no rock structures. There was a huge "wall"
> of rock, I think it was artificial(maybe that is what happened to the
> rock formations, they were scavenged for construction material. I don't
> remember very well, though).

In Dune the movie they clearly showed isolated outcrops of rock scattered
about the planet but yes everywhere else the planet was fine grained sand
dunes.

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 12:30:14
Message: <38D90388.549EC3C9@pacbell.net>
Bill DeWitt wrote:

>     The film is comedic only if you don't take it as an insult. I found it
> insulting.

I found it no more insulting than the Star Wars movies are.

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From: SamuelT 
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 21:48:38
Message: <38D988BE.16D62BB1@aol.com>
In closing, perhaps my scene is just showing a larger rock outcropping. :)

Ken wrote:

> Chris Huff wrote:
>
> > I read one of the Dune books, and apparently, almost all of the land of
> > Arrakis was just sand with no rock structures. There was a huge "wall"
> > of rock, I think it was artificial(maybe that is what happened to the
> > rock formations, they were scavenged for construction material. I don't
> > remember very well, though).
>
> In Dune the movie they clearly showed isolated outcrops of rock scattered
> about the planet but yes everywhere else the planet was fine grained sand
> dunes.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler -  1300+ Povray, Graphics, 3D Rendering, and Raytracing Links:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html http://www.povray.org/links/

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From: SamuelT 
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 21:50:26
Message: <38D9892A.7FA37618@aol.com>
I hope to get a hold of the book to read it; I've only seen the movie, which I
enjoyed thoroughly.

Jerome wrote:

>         And much better anyway... The film is a great comic show
> once you've read the book, though I doubt that was the
> intention...
>
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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 22 Mar 2000 21:52:15
Message: <38D986B2.8F7ABBD8@attglobal.net>
Ken wrote:
> 
> Chris Huff wrote:
> 
> > I read one of the Dune books, and apparently, almost all of the land of
> > Arrakis was just sand with no rock structures. There was a huge "wall"
> > of rock, I think it was artificial(maybe that is what happened to the
> > rock formations, they were scavenged for construction material. I don't
> > remember very well, though).

As far as I can remember, the rock formation was natural.  They built
the city there to protect it from the worms.

> 
> In Dune the movie they clearly showed isolated outcrops of rock scattered
> about the planet but yes everywhere else the planet was fine grained sand
> dunes.

Except in the South.  There are rumours of oases and green rolling
hills, but they are only rumours as the Guild's Sattelites are forbidden
from flying over this area.

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     flabreq      | terrestrial intelligence is that they never
        @         | bothered to come down here and visit us!
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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 05:13:31
Message: <38d9ee4b$1@news.povray.org>
Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:38D90314.E837832C@pacbell.net...
>
>
> Chris Huff wrote:
>
> > I read one of the Dune books, and apparently, almost all of the land of
> > Arrakis was just sand with no rock structures. There was a huge "wall"
> > of rock, I think it was artificial(maybe that is what happened to the
> > rock formations, they were scavenged for construction material. I don't
> > remember very well, though).
>

There was, AFAIK, quite a few bits of rock in the book. Paul and his mother
escape from a sandworm after the thopter crash by moving into a rocky area.
Most of the Freeman water reservoirs are in rock caves.

God, the movie stunk - main reasons? Lynch didn't give a damn, the Baron
should have lived in opulent splendour, Paul was badly cast, it wasn't six
hours long, and Hollywood probably couldn't cope with the idea that the
heroic Freeman should all have been played by fanatical Arabs....


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 05:18:14
Message: <38D9EFAA.50AA6868@pacbell.net>
Tom Melly wrote:
> 
> Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> news:38D90314.E837832C@pacbell.net...
> >
> >
> > Chris Huff wrote:
> >
> > > I read one of the Dune books, and apparently, almost all of the land of
> > > Arrakis was just sand with no rock structures. There was a huge "wall"
> > > of rock, I think it was artificial(maybe that is what happened to the
> > > rock formations, they were scavenged for construction material. I don't
> > > remember very well, though).
> >
> 
> There was, AFAIK, quite a few bits of rock in the book. Paul and his mother
> escape from a sandworm after the thopter crash by moving into a rocky area.
> Most of the Freeman water reservoirs are in rock caves.
> 
> God, the movie stunk - main reasons? Lynch didn't give a damn, the Baron
> should have lived in opulent splendour, Paul was badly cast, it wasn't six
> hours long, and Hollywood probably couldn't cope with the idea that the
> heroic Freeman should all have been played by fanatical Arabs....


I consider myself a well read but discriminating sci-fi reader and the
truth be told I thought the Dune series was an aweful bore. I liked the
movie because there was so much to laugh at.

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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 05:45:29
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Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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>
> I consider myself a well read but discriminating sci-fi reader and the
> truth be told I thought the Dune series was an aweful bore. I liked the
> movie because there was so much to laugh at.
>

I'd agree(ish) with regard to the sequals, but the first book is definately
in my top-ten sci-fi list. Which one did you read?


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 09:36:05
Message: <38da2bd5@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandluforce9couk> wrote :
>
> God, the movie stunk - main reasons? Lynch didn't give a damn, the Baron
> should have lived in opulent splendour, Paul was badly cast, it wasn't six
> hours long, and Hollywood probably couldn't cope with the idea that the
> heroic Freeman should all have been played by fanatical Arabs....
>

    True.

    Also, what happened to the "weirding way"? Some sort of a vocal
amplifier? Why not just change -everything- if you are going to ignore some
of the basic premises? Maybe "Dune, 90210" with bathing suits instead of
Stilsuits. I'm guessing that they couldn't find any Aikidoka to play Paul


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Arrakis, desert planet (68.1kb bu)
Date: 23 Mar 2000 11:42:02
Message: <38DA4992.38EED057@pacbell.net>
Tom Melly wrote:
> 
> Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
> news:38D9EFAA.50AA6868@pacbell.net...
> >
> > I consider myself a well read but discriminating sci-fi reader and the
> > truth be told I thought the Dune series was an aweful bore. I liked the
> > movie because there was so much to laugh at.
> >
> 
> I'd agree(ish) with regard to the sequals, but the first book is definately
> in my top-ten sci-fi list. Which one did you read?

All of them. When I first started reading Sci-Fi I would raid my brothers
prolific collection and included in that was the entire series of Dune
books - some 25 years ago.

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